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Schadenfreude ( member #43075) posted at 8:13 PM on Thursday, June 5th, 2014
Painful past has raised a good issue abiut the college trust fund or purchasing a prepaid college plan. You don't want to see a new husband leaving your ex-house in his new truck towing his new Boston Whaler to go fishing since he doesn't have to work since your ex wife is supporting him. You get the picture, right? I'll bet it will have twin counterotating 125 hp motors, too.
HobbesTheTiger ( member #41477) posted at 8:16 PM on Thursday, June 5th, 2014
((brohugs&fistbumps))
Keep being a great parent, man, cop and friend like you've been thus far, and all will be great!
CheaterMagnet ( member #33581) posted at 9:19 PM on Thursday, June 5th, 2014
PainfulPast is incorrect regarding your being entitled to the inheritance. Inheritances are generally not considered community property by law, therefore in a divorce you would not be entitled to any of her inheritance unless it has been so mixed with community funds that it has become community property. So, if your wife's inheritance is in a separate account from your marital funds, you would not be entitled to it. If it's mixed with the marital funds, you would have some claim to it.
Sorry for the t/j. Just wanted to clarify. You probably already know this from your attorney.
[This message edited by CheaterMagnet at 3:24 PM, June 5th (Thursday)]
If Happy Ever After did exist, I would still be holding you like this.
All those fairly tales are full of shit.
One more fucking love song I'll be sick. ~ Maroon 5
brokenblackbird ( member #29541) posted at 9:23 PM on Thursday, June 5th, 2014
therefore in a divorce you would not be entitled to any of her inheritance.
If the inheritance was co-mingled with marital funds (ie, paid off the marital home that both lived in. The inheritance was put into a joint bank account, etc) then whatever was mixed into the marital funds is jointly owned. It doesn't matter where it came from.
If its all tucked away in ONLY her name, then its all hers.
doggiediva ( member #33806) posted at 9:26 PM on Thursday, June 5th, 2014
Exactly what broken blackbird wrote...Check the laws for your area..
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Don't tie your happiness to the tail of somebody else's kite
63 years young..
doggiediva ( member #33806) posted at 9:48 PM on Thursday, June 5th, 2014
From what you wrote it does seem like your WW can support herself and provide well for your kids in the case of S or D should she have primary custody..
This may give you more peace of mind, and allow you to begin a relatively comfortable sustainable new life post D..
Recovery is so much better when both spouses have had the good fortune to be able build up resources that will carry them thru catastrophic events like D..
It sucks to be stuck in a bad marriage because, for whatever reason (permanent disability, advanced age, illness come to mind) the alternative of D or separation would cause both spouses to live a life of struggle to support themselves ..
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Don't tie your happiness to the tail of somebody else's kite
63 years young..
yearsofpain25 ( member #42012) posted at 10:50 PM on Thursday, June 5th, 2014
YOP buddy I'm not forgetting you either.
Awe shucks. Love you to occifer SWAT!
Still with ya any way you go.
yop
"I remind myself of this. I am a survivor. I have taken all this world has dished out and am still here. So there is no reason to be afraid. Whatever happens, I will survive. So now onto living. It is time for me to thrive." - DrJekyll
saturnpatrick ( member #35989) posted at 12:30 AM on Friday, June 6th, 2014
I'm not perfect and I'm sure I wasn't a perfect husband. I worked long hours and frequent OT. But I was a good a man and husband as I could be. I made time for her and my kids. I wouldn't sleep to spend time with her. I made date nights and I never ever forgot her birthday, Valentines day or our anniversary. I know that doesn't make me husband of the decade. But I tried so hard to never give her reason to complain or not love me or feel unloved. I loved her the best I knew how and it wasn't enough. That hurts. Logically I know I am not to blame for her affair. But emotionally not so much. I'm working on it though I promise.
It took me a year to really start to believe it wasn't about me being 'good enough' or 'not good enough'. Hang in there dude.
I am in the same boat as some of the others here about pushing or even suggesting what path SWAT chooses. We are not SWAT. SWAT doesn't make decisions for us. Why should we make them for him?
Furthermore, even though this guy is hurting, the way he has carried himself through this is just fricken amazing. I wish I could have had an ounce of the clearheadedness, composure, and self respect that SWAT has had through this mess when I went through my DDay. SWAT - you may not feel that way about yourself, or maybe you do, but you IMO have been a rock star through this.
My point is that SWAT is fully capable of making up his own darn mind on what he wants to. If he wants our opinion on what decision to make, he'll ask for it. In the meantime, offer advice that supports him in the path he has chosen. Don't try to choose his path for him.
One last thing -- I was the one to bring up Chuck Norris. I had no idea about his history. I'm sorry for those who were hurt by that.
nomadlady ( member #41090) posted at 1:24 AM on Friday, June 6th, 2014
Hi SWAT,
Clearly you have a huge community of supporters behind you.
Being human though, we supporters have biases. Some here are obviously pro R and some are pro D.
It would be fair to have a consistent attitude towards adulterers; if they demonstrate true remorse and sorrow for what they have done then the BS should seriously contemplate reconciliation.
I'm with SisterMilkshake--I have a real problem with the above statement. A BS shouldn't contemplate R with even the most remorseful and sorrowful WS if the BS doesn't want to or isn't able to.
You already took the leap of faith that is R. You gave your WW a second chance. If you don't want to, you don't have to give her a third chance, and you don't have to file for D while "watching her carefully to see what she does or how she changes." This is your life, not a movie, and, unfortunately, happy endings are sometimes the exception rather than the rule in infidelity. (Even though I use "you" in this paragraph, I think it's directed less to SWAT than others.)
You've chosen D. There are lots of people who've gone through the process who will likely give you good advice on what to expect. I wish you all the best. (((SWAT)))
[This message edited by nomadlady at 8:22 PM, June 5th (Thursday)]
BS
DDay: September 2013
R
"My entire life can be described in one sentence: It didn't go as planned, and that's ok."
SWAT70 (original poster member #42915) posted at 1:48 AM on Friday, June 6th, 2014
Well I told the kids. That fucking sucked y'all. My babies are hurting and I can't fix it. Not much else to say. Gotta go to work so I'll touch base later. Thanks everyone.
Me-BH WW-39
DD-11 DS-6 DS-3
D day was Valentines day 2014. Talk about a trigger.
Divorced
nekorb ( member #40306) posted at 4:44 AM on Friday, June 6th, 2014
Oh SWAT. I'm sorry. Telling the kids is the worst.just be there for them. It's all you can do.
(((SWAT)))
Me: BS 44; Him: WH 47 M - 22 Years
D-day: 7/2013; D filed 7/2014; Divorced 7-27-16
...the WS affair starts off in a dreamland where everything is all Golly, Wow! and Meant To Be! and Soul Mates drop from the trees to frolic in the mist. -devotedman
5454real ( member #37455) posted at 5:04 AM on Friday, June 6th, 2014
That fucking sucked y'all.
When I got my D from my first WW, I can't remember a harder convo.(son was 4) His understanding was so, so limited.
We got past it. He's 24 now. I couldn't be prouder of him. He did better being *from* a broken home than having to live in one.
I'm sorry for the pain.
Strength
BH 58, WW 49
DS 31(Mine),SD 29,SS 28(Hers),DS 16 Ours, DGS 11, DGD 8, DGS 3
D=Day #1 5/04EA (Rugswept)
D-Day #2 3/10/12, TT til 3/13/12
Married 13yrs
"I have no love for a friend who loves in words alone."
― Sophocle
Kajem ( member #36134) posted at 5:11 AM on Friday, June 6th, 2014
I trust you is a better compliment than I love you, because you may not trust the person you love, but you can always love the person you trust. - UnknownRelationships are like sharing a book, it doesn't work if you're not on the same page.
ThoughtIKnewYa ( member #18449) posted at 5:13 AM on Friday, June 6th, 2014
Furious1 ( member #42970) posted at 10:49 AM on Friday, June 6th, 2014
((((((Swat)))))))
Telling our kids was the biggest reality check for my WH. That was when I started seeing true remorse from my WH and not just embarrassment. Whatever you decide, we are here for you.
BW (me): 46
2 adult kids
D-day: 10/4/13.
Divorced
OK now ( member #14459) posted at 12:32 PM on Friday, June 6th, 2014
It would be fair to have a consistent attitude towards adulterers; if they demonstrate true remorse and sorrow for what they have done then the BS should seriously contemplate reconciliation.
One of the purposes of SI is to indirectly encourage reconciliation and I would think that every act of discovered adultery would involve the BS at least contemplating whether the marriage can be saved or not. If the decision is no or yes is not the question; its an issue of analyzing the relationship and deciding whether it can be saved or is divorce the next step
Its just part of a logical process and I regret that SisterMilkshake struggles with understanding the concept.
tushnurse ( member #21101) posted at 1:40 PM on Friday, June 6th, 2014
(((SWAT)))
I hope you didn't have to do that alone. That would just suck big balls.
They will understand, maybe not right away, but remember being raised with one healthy whole parent is waaaaay better than two broken ones.
((((and strength)))
Me: FBSHim: FWSKids: 23 & 27 Married for 32 years now, was 16 at the time.D-Day Sept 26 2008R'd in about 2 years. Old Vet now.
SisterMilkshake ( member #30024) posted at 2:05 PM on Friday, June 6th, 2014
((((SWAt70)))) I am so sorry that you had to tell your children. I am sure that wasn't easy.
Its just part of a logical process and I regret that SisterMilkshake struggles with understanding the concept.
That is hilarious, OK now. Actually made me lol!
Naw, I don't struggle with that particular concept. What I do struggle with is posters that insist that a BS must/should contemplate reconciliation. No BS is required/must/should contemplate reconciliation. If they "want to" contemplate fine, but they don't have to. I regret that OK now struggles with the concept that one shouldn't tell others what they "should" do in regards to reconciliation.
BW (me) & FWH both over half a century; married several decades; children
d-day 3/10; LTA (7 years?)
"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak." ~ Homer Simpson
cdnmommy ( member #30182) posted at 2:18 PM on Friday, June 6th, 2014
If the decision is no or yes is not the question; its an issue of analyzing the relationship and deciding whether it can be saved or is divorce the next step
OK now, I have struggled with your posts on this thread because as pro-R as I am when the WS is remorseful, and as much as I know from experience that even a WS who struggles a long time to really "get it" can still be a good candidate for R, I feel as though you are pushing SWAT for something he is not ready for.
Saying a BS "should" contemplate R reeks of judgement. Saying that the OM will win if he chooses to D is manipulative. Neither of these is true.
I firmly believe that every BS considers the investment they have made in the relationship before making the decision to D. If that weren't the case, there would be a lot less agony for us.
Me: BW
DDay: Oct 2010 + 6 weeks false R
2.5 (+?) year A with married coworker/my "friend"
2 great kids
Reconciling and healing
yearsofpain25 ( member #42012) posted at 2:20 PM on Friday, June 6th, 2014
Oh man SWAT. Telling the kids... that's a really rough one. Really hurts now, but they will be ok in the long run. You are doing the right thing in talking with them. Continue to engage them and work with them. Let them know your thoughts (without the graphic details) so that they are assured of you and what is going on.
I'm with Sister and SWAT on this too. From my own story you can see what happens if you "stay together for the kids". If there is going to be a toxic environment that ensues, well just don't do it. Many times the toxic environment is unavoidable as emotions run so white hot and ice cold depending on the minute. That's very confusing and hurtful to children to watch their parent's go through that. And then all the personal baggage that comes to the child from watching that stuff take place.
Still doesn't mean that it can't change in the future. This is how it is now.
Continue to engage and work with your kids SWAT and they will be fine.
yop
"I remind myself of this. I am a survivor. I have taken all this world has dished out and am still here. So there is no reason to be afraid. Whatever happens, I will survive. So now onto living. It is time for me to thrive." - DrJekyll
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