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arbuom (original poster member #58131) posted at 4:50 PM on Tuesday, September 12th, 2017
The day has come.
Even though I’m convinced, beyond any doubt, that I’m doing the right decision, it’s still hard to say goodbye. I know I will be ok, I always have. I was 10 times the man I’m today when she met me, but I’ll get there again. At least I won’t have the shame she will carry for the rest of her life (if she ever admits to it), especially in front of her kids. I’m sure she will wake up one day and realize the destruction she’s done, but even if she doesn’t, that’s ok too.
I’m very sad today. But I’m also happy too. I’m not gonna suffer anymore. I’m free from the pain of infidelity. I hope to never feel it ever again in my life, but if I do, I know exactly what to do the next time around. If there is one thing that I’ve cried a lot about during the long hours of the night (I’m not sleeping much these days), it’s how I've handled this situation. I’m so angry with myself. What happened to me? How did I let this go on for so long? I should have showed her the fucking door months ago. I deserve much better than this. I sold myself short.
If there are any new BS’s reading my thread, please learn from my mistakes. Please. You will hate yourself just like I do now. Even though I’m finally standing up for myself, somehow it doesn’t feel that way.
Wish me luck as I head into the unknown, I need as much as I can get right now.
Chappie ( member #56407) posted at 5:53 PM on Tuesday, September 12th, 2017
Good luck.
Do what you think is right! No one can deny you your right to be a good and moral person. Yes, there are others out there. When someone is telling you bullshit, just laugh at them and say No Thanks, I don't think I'll have any.
Keep your head up and your integrity intact for you and your kids!!!!!!!!
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Sharkman ( member #56818) posted at 6:35 PM on Tuesday, September 12th, 2017
Hold your breath and count to ten. This is one of those things where it ONLY gets better the further out you are.
Change is tough man. This is a big change. That doesn't mean it's bad change.
MidnightRun ( member #59434) posted at 6:57 PM on Tuesday, September 12th, 2017
Think about your wonderful future.
The world abounds with beautiful, intelligent women with integrity.
These women pine for men of your caliber.
Paraphrasing a famous president:
"The only thing to fear is fear itself."
And the war was won.
arbuom (original poster member #58131) posted at 1:31 AM on Wednesday, September 13th, 2017
Thanks for the kinds words of encouragement, I really appreciate it.
I would have loved to come here and say you guys were right, but as I had suspected, STBX seemed to breath a sigh of relief. She wants this more than anything it seems, and is so ready to start her new life. The good news is that she's wanting to end this on good terms, and without giving our money to the lawyers. I'm hoping that we can come to a fair agreement (that's what I've always wanted), and get this wrapped up sooner rather than later.
I must admit that it hurts. Less than a year ago, STBX wrote me an anniversary card that filled my heart with love, and now it seems she can't wait to be on her way.
I really miss the woman I married, she's definitely not the same woman here today.
Thanks all for the support, this place is incredible. I wish I had found you guys sooner than I did. I may not be hurting as much as I'm now.
-Arb
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Sharkman ( member #56818) posted at 1:41 AM on Wednesday, September 13th, 2017
You need to do the right thing and make sure that the OBS knows that there is nothing blocking your wife from her boyfriend any longer.
MidnightRun ( member #59434) posted at 2:14 AM on Wednesday, September 13th, 2017
bardo ( new member #60500) posted at 2:26 AM on Wednesday, September 13th, 2017
BS only
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ohforanewme ( member #59230) posted at 6:28 AM on Wednesday, September 13th, 2017
Hi arbuom
I have followed your thread. Have not posted. You have the same support team that I had. They are the very best. I could add not more. I felt that any post from me would be just clutter.
But today I think I can add something.
You know that today I can probably empathise more than most. So today I will sit with you in our sad, melancholy and put my hand on your shoulder and tell you with conviction, "this will not last long, and when it is passed there is a much better place and much better people waiting for us".
I think that you know that I can say that with conviction, because even though I am in a sad place just for a little while now, I have actually been to that better place. Experienced it first hand. Man it is great. Cant wait to get back to it.
Can't wait to hear your first, terrifying but invigorating account when you get there.
Bardo, pleased to see that you are feeling strong enough to post and support others now. Hope it is getting a little better for you as well.
MidnightRun ( member #59434) posted at 7:02 AM on Wednesday, September 13th, 2017
Yes, Sharkman is one of the best, and ohfor is a sterling example of those who have prevailed despite it all.
Ohfor is on the road to happines, and you can travel that path as well.
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Bigger ( Attaché #8354) posted at 10:29 AM on Wednesday, September 13th, 2017
Arbuom
Try to adapt the same attitude and mentality as if you were dealing with your house being on fire.
Right now, it’s clear the damage is so extensive that EVERYTHING indicates there is no turning back.
Imagine if you were in that situation… You have some options… Some good, some bad.
Like you could sit down in your favorite chair and wail about the fire destroying your home. Won’t do much good, would it?
You could carry on trying to extinguish the fire. That might extend the time before your home completely burns down but it probably won’t change the outcome.
Or… You go about saving what valuables you can from the burning house. You prioritize and get the items with the highest personal value, followed by the irreplaceable items and the items that you most need to restart elsewhere. Frankly anything else is of no importance.
Imagine every trip to save valuables expands energy and takes time. At best, you have enough time and energy to make 10 trips. Stopping to scream at the flames or to examine the ongoing damage will only burn up energy and waste time. Do either and you only make 8 trips. House will still inevitably burn to ashes and you will be left with less.
Be focused and realistic. Keep momentum. Do your best to keep a steady pace out of infidelity. Define between realistic goals and emotions. You will do fine.
About the being amicable and friendly and all that… I have never hidden my view that IMHO it’s semi-unrealistic in divorce. By all means be FAIR and avoid unnecessary confrontation, but be unafraid to tackle the tough issues head-on, irrespective of emotions or popularity. The key to dealing successfully with divorce is to have a very good picture of debts, assets and obligations and a realistic division of these items.
"If, therefore, any be unhappy, let him remember that he is unhappy by reason of himself alone." Epictetus
Chappie ( member #56407) posted at 11:16 AM on Wednesday, September 13th, 2017
Has she given you the "I still want to be friends speech yet?"
Has she found a job yet? What state do you live in?
Check out dadsdivorce.com
Has she been served?
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arbuom (original poster member #58131) posted at 10:12 PM on Wednesday, September 13th, 2017
I'm overwhelmed with gratitude to you all! Thank you!
I'm unfortunately stressed to the max trying to figure out the next steps, but I'm trying my best to keep putting one foot in front the other. I'm finding it very hard to believe that after 13 years of having a family that I woke up to, had meals with, went on vacation with, and shared life's happy moments with; I will soon be living alone. Life can cruel sometimes
I will write an update soon, but I wanted to acknowledge your messages. Thank you so much!!
goalong ( member #57352) posted at 12:11 AM on Thursday, September 14th, 2017
Do not feel bad about what happened. You were sincere and moral. It was WW who should be ashamed of that she abused your care and love and did not have the character or morality to tell you what she was doing or what she wanted.
The past is gone. The future does not belong to you . What you have is the present and your best response would be to live your life to the best. Tell your kids of the extent of WW prolonged heartless betrayal. They deserve to know. From the way she changed their schedules to suit her selfish agenda shows she does not care that much about the kids. They will side with you.
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Jduff ( member #41988) posted at 1:27 AM on Thursday, September 14th, 2017
arbuom, you still do have your family. It's only your WW that's opting out, not your kids. There's no reason you can't still be their father, the one they have always known. In fact, you should be a more improved version of him. They will need you to be their rock because it's your WW who isn't the same and they know it. Trust me.
Focus on what's best for you and your kids. Your STBXW can fend for herself.
The grass is always greener.... where the dogs are shitting.
-Soundgarden
Bigger ( Attaché #8354) posted at 2:44 PM on Thursday, September 14th, 2017
I will soon be living alone.
Aubuom
We see this ALL THE TIME. This is PRECISELY why we have been strongly suggesting you pass all divorce ideas past a competent attorney.
Time after time we get men (this applies especially for men, but many women fall into this trap too) that want to be so “nice” and have such an amicable divorce and don’t want confrontation that they bend over backwards to be accommodating.
If you will soon be living alone then it’s ONLY because you allow that to happen. It’s only because you are so fixed on being nice and friendly that you already give up what you are entitled to.
I think you need to have some hard truths in mind:
The moment you file you are legally entitled to and legally burdened with HALF of everything. That includes custody, debts, assets…
Your life will carry on and you will have the normal and expected requirements and demands. You won’t be OK with renting a bed-sit or driving the old Ford for ten more years.
The present set-up where your wife is a SAHM and the kids are at their age and you are the sole provider… That’s NOW. Kids grow up and become more independent and capable. This setup is based on the present situation. Divorce changes the situation.
God willing (and with a lot of work on both your behalf) you and then ex-wife will be friendly. Like you can sit side-by-side at school plays and at parent-teacher meetings. But you won’t be “friends”. She won’t phone you to chat or you won’t have her and her new lover over for drinks. Not that your then-GF would want that anyway.
There is change in divorce. Your wife is fully capable of getting a job and earing an income. You don’t have an obligation to financially support her.
There is change in divorce. Maybe neither of you can realistically keep this house.
Once again Aubuom. Be FAIR and REALISTIC in divorce, but you want to exit with your rights to your kids intact, half the assets and half the debt. When you file it’s 50/50 and it will only change if YOU allow it to change.
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"If, therefore, any be unhappy, let him remember that he is unhappy by reason of himself alone." Epictetus
Chappie ( member #56407) posted at 5:24 PM on Thursday, September 14th, 2017
DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING OR MOVE OUT BEFORE TALKING TO AN ATTORNEY. Let us know what you are doing.
Letting the folks here know what state your in helps too.
I am totally concerned about how you are handling this.
You wife cheated, she should be the one to move out if you can afford to keep the house. If you can't, sell it and split the equity. Seek 50/50 custody. This is easy in some states but not others.
Screwing yourself in this divorce is screwing your kids. Your wife has already proven she is untrustworthy and irresponsible. You have to take charge. Your kids need a man not a wimp.
arbuom (original poster member #58131) posted at 5:43 PM on Thursday, September 14th, 2017
Bigger
Thank you for always keeping me focused, and for keeping my eye on the eight ball. I really appreciate all that you done for me.
I think you misread what I meant in that statement, and I was probably extremely emotional when I wrote it. You hit the nail on the head (like you always do), when you said "That’s NOW." I realize (probably like everyone else in my situation) that I'm thinking this is forever! My mind is definitely telling me that I'll get through this, but my emotions are lagging far behind. I will hopefully get there soon.
We are both getting a fair and realistic outcome, and trying our absolute best to put the kids first. We are selling the house, and we will both be alone in a new place when the kids are at the other's place half the time. I should have been more clear, but clearly I was emotional.
And yes, a competent attorney is in the loop.
Thanks again for everything. I really hope that you will continue to check on me, I value (and continue to) all the advice and support you have given me.
-Arb
Bigger ( Attaché #8354) posted at 6:06 PM on Thursday, September 14th, 2017
Glad to hear that.
I would much better be wrong once than you having to be wrong for the next ten years or so.
"If, therefore, any be unhappy, let him remember that he is unhappy by reason of himself alone." Epictetus
arbuom (original poster member #58131) posted at 10:53 AM on Sunday, October 1st, 2017
I never thought this day would ever come!
I realize that I will get heat for this, but I think I needed to get lots of off my chest. Two nights ago my STBX and I started talking (we are still under the same roof), and we talked for 4 hours straight. It was a good calm discussion, she talked about the 12 years that preceded the A, and I agreed with a lot of points she made. There is no doubt that I could have been a much better husband. And of course, I focused solely on the last 12 months. As people familiar with my story know, my STBX has consistantly and vehemently denied any wrong doing, and that it was completely on the POSOM for turning what supposedly was a “platonic friendship” into something more. She had no part in it. It seems I’ve finally cracked her shell. We went to bed very late.
She woke up yesterday morning looking like absolute hell. I could tell there was LOTS on her mind. She came to me and, for the first time since this whole shit storm started, apologized for hurting me in such a horrible way! Still no admission of guilt, but it’s a start. She said she was overridden with guilt, and is feeling horrible.
I had planned to be out of the house all day yesterday, and left. I come home late yesterday, and I could tell there was more. As soon as we sat down on the couch, what I’ve been waiting for has finally happened. She finally admitted that she realizes now that she may have gone too far, and feels responsible in some part of leading the POSOM on. She still maintains that she never was in love with the POSOM, or ever had feeling for him. And that her thoughts and actions were always pure and virtuous.
I’m numb again. Some part of me is happy that I finally have what I need to move on. But I’m obviously still very sad about losing what used to be an absolutely incredible woman!
I haven’t updated in a a while. But we are about to sign the divorce papers, most likely this coming week. We’ve told the kids, and the house is going up for sale shortly after…
I’ve decided that I’m staying the course no matter what. If there is any chance for R, it may have to come after we walk our separate ways, or never at all. Despite this being a huge step for her. I still don’t see an iota of remorse.
-Arb
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