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The1stWife ( Guide #58832) posted at 3:37 PM on Wednesday, August 19th, 2020
I hope it works out for you. I know the pain of the “now you know everything” routine over and over.
Just remember sometimes it’s nit the affair that kills the marriage but the behavior after Dday that does.
Finding out how long the affair occurred on your own is just one aspect. Her refusing to be completely honest is another.
Survived two affairs and brink of Divorce. Happily reconciled. 12 years out from Dday. Reconciliation takes two committed people to be successful.
beenthereinco ( member #56409) posted at 3:37 PM on Wednesday, August 19th, 2020
Also do not be fooled by her willingness and enthusiasm initially for the polygraph. You said that before she agreed immediately to the poly and you know now that she was lying to you when she did it. She may agree to the poly now but find a way out of it later or maybe she thinks she can beat it. Most likely you will get a confession right before the poly of something she hasn't told you and then she will say that now that you know everything you don't need the poly. Don't fall for it. There will be more. There are plenty of people on here that had a Wayward Spouse agree to a poly, tell them they knew everything and then failed it miserably. Cheaters are nothing if not consistent, they lie.
Dismayed2012 ( member #49151) posted at 4:19 PM on Wednesday, August 19th, 2020
What else is she still lying about?
This is the question that you'll now get to live with indefinitely.
It may be time to do an evaluation of your life and determine what you want it to look like in 5-10 years. Will your WW help or hinder you getting there? Is it going to be possible to have a happy, content, drama-free life going forward with her? Do you want to spend your future with someone who has lied, cheated, and betrayed you (and may or may not do it again) or would it be brighter with someone else? Additionally, if she's getting exasperated so soon in the process then she's proving her lack of empathy for the damage she's done to you. When you truly love someone, cheating never crosses your mind. When you truly love someone, the last thing you would do is get exasperated with them especially when you're the one that's hurt them.
Your WW has issues. You have options. Take some time and go over them. This life is about you and your happiness. Your WW made her choices to bring this destruction to you and her family. Now it's your turn to make your choices. Block everything and everyone else out of your mind and choose what's best for you and your future. You've been given this window of opportunity. Make the most of it while you can.
I wish the best for you.
Infidelity sucks. Freedom rocks.
99problems ( member #59373) posted at 5:30 PM on Wednesday, August 19th, 2020
There's probably even more.
I couldnt believe how far the rabbit hole went with me, I found out about years of A's and 5 different AP's before I stopped. I probably could have found more.
Got me a new forum name!<BR />Formerly Idiotmcstupid.<BR />I am divorced, so not as much of an idiot now- 4/15/21,
Thumos ( member #69668) posted at 5:43 PM on Wednesday, August 19th, 2020
The beatings will continue until the morale improves.
The only one who can or will advocate for you on your behalf is yourself.
"True character is revealed in the choices a human being makes under pressure. The greater the pressure, the deeper the revelation, the truer the choice to the character's essential nature."
BH: 50, WW: 49 Wed: Feb.'96 DDAY1: 12.20.16 DDAY2: 12.23.19
Mene ( member #64377) posted at 6:08 PM on Wednesday, August 19th, 2020
When you’ve been on this site for a while and you start reading a new case of infidelity and you, you really know, that the betrayed spouse doesn’t have the whole truth. And you go back to the post a day or two later or a month and low and behold they find out the initial confession was the tip of the iceberg. And it always leaves you dreading. Feeling awful for the betrayed because most of us have gone through this scenario. Keep digging OP, hopefully you won’t find more. Just remember if your wife doesn’t tell you the whole truth you can’t move forward. You can’t reconcile.
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Life wasn’t meant to be fair...
MickeyBill2016 ( member #56459) posted at 6:44 PM on Wednesday, August 19th, 2020
Hi Bark-
In your fist post, the first line was she was packing to go on a business trip, does she travel often? Can you be 100% sure that in light of the additional year of the EA that she didn;t meet up with her BF?
She has shown that she will lie and seems to be good at it.
9 years married.
13 years divorced.
Robert22205https ( member #65547) posted at 8:21 PM on Wednesday, August 19th, 2020
Cheaters lie and lie some more. Withholding information that she thinks will make it worse is actually typical (but still not acceptable).
However, it's not evidence that she's a hopeless case - rather it's evidence that your wife thinks like a typical cheater (wayward) and is now in damage control.
Plus it's evidence that your wife has serious work (including IC) to do in order to make herself a safe partner.
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KingofNothing ( member #71775) posted at 6:11 PM on Thursday, August 20th, 2020
Personally, for me the straw that broke the camel’s back was was she claimed you grabbed and bruised her. Thank God you had a witness!!!!
Wait.. what? When did this happen? I'm missing something. I thought I read all of barkplug's posts.
Rex Nihilo, the King of Nothing
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“If you’re going through hell, keep going. Just please stop screaming, it’s not good for morale.”
— Winston Churchill
BS 3 DDays/Attempted R, it failed. In a better place
baller20 ( member #75093) posted at 6:41 PM on Thursday, August 20th, 2020
I did some digging and found out that the contact began a full year before she told me. A. Full. Year.
No she didn’t admit it to me first, I had to discover it on my own
OMG, No. I strongly believed in reconciliation before I read this.
Now it's so hard to predict what will happen..
Be strong barkplugs, and keep digging.
"Dance me through the panic till I'm gathered safely in"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsaxdFDAGik
barkplugs (original poster new member #74667) posted at 9:40 PM on Thursday, August 20th, 2020
Personally, for me the straw that broke the camel’s back was was she claimed you grabbed and bruised her. Thank God you had a witness!!!!
You might have me confused with someone else. I never grabbed her, she never claimed violence for bruises. No altercations either.
Buster123 ( member #65551) posted at 9:51 PM on Thursday, August 20th, 2020
Poligraph any time soon ?
barkplugs (original poster new member #74667) posted at 9:57 PM on Thursday, August 20th, 2020
OMG, No. I strongly believed in reconciliation before I read this.
Now it's so hard to predict what will happen..
Be strong barkplugs, and keep digging.
Same here. I still lean towards reconciliation based on what I think I know, but I’m waiting on some evidence to come back and then see what it says.
Don’t get me wrong, the damage is great.
There’s some great advice here and a lot of painful experiences are resonating with me. I’m reading every thing and taking it all to heart. I’ve got milestones to pass, boxes to check, fears to deal with. My situation has complicated aspects so I’m not rushing to a decision.
Some questions here I could answer more directly but I don’t want to give away some identifying information in case this thread is found. For example, I’m pretty sure they never met up and I have very solid evidence as to why - even now. Yes, I could be wrong and maybe I am. If I am, I’ll let you guys know.
However, I’m reluctant to put certain things out there because the hurt endured by some members causes them to project their situation onto mine. While the human condition lends itself towards common themes (and it has here in spots), it doesn’t always translate into identical situations and the tone can be... assumptive. That said, I get the spirit of it: you want to help. But that’s feedback.
BTW, @BluerThanBlue - your post is so similar to how I feel and I thank you for it. It was something I needed to hear.
barkplugs (original poster new member #74667) posted at 10:03 PM on Thursday, August 20th, 2020
Buster - I’m waiting on the results of some of my digging to produce before I schedule a polygraph. I need to know some facts for myself before I take the polygraph step - or even ask her about them. I wasn’t going to do what I am doing now the first time and that would have been a mistake.
Buster123 ( member #65551) posted at 10:35 PM on Thursday, August 20th, 2020
However, I’m reluctant to put certain things out there because the hurt endured by some members causes them to project their situation onto mine. While the human condition lends itself towards common themes (and it has here in spots), it doesn’t always translate into identical situations and the tone can be... assumptive. That said, I get the spirit of it: you want to help. But that’s feedback.
Your SI member number is 74,667, yes every case is different and not necessarily "identical" but cheaters typically follow a similar script.
There's a saying here on SI that reads "Take what you need and leave the rest", however I can assure you that the collective wisdom of SI could prove very valuable in any situation, and the common "standard" suggestions given here have stood the test of time over and over again, and most of those times the faster a BS heeds the advice the better the results.
Buster123 ( member #65551) posted at 10:46 PM on Thursday, August 20th, 2020
Buster - I’m waiting on the results of some of my digging to produce before I schedule a polygraph. I need to know some facts for myself before I take the polygraph step - or even ask her about them. I wasn’t going to do what I am doing now the first time and that would have been a mistake.
Ok I understand and of course "digging" for info is good, however I hope you don't get caught in what we sometimes call "Analysis Paralysis" here, and unnecessarily delay "asking her" or the poly itself.
barkplugs (original poster new member #74667) posted at 1:12 AM on Friday, August 21st, 2020
I am familiar with analysis paralysis. This is the difference between confront with or without evidence that I can actually obtain.
Should know within a day or 3.
KingofNothing ( member #71775) posted at 9:14 PM on Friday, August 21st, 2020
However, I’m reluctant to put certain things out there because the hurt endured by some members causes them to project their situation onto mine. While the human condition lends itself towards common themes (and it has here in spots), it doesn’t always translate into identical situations and the tone can be... assumptive. That said, I get the spirit of it: you want to help. But that’s feedback.
I empathize with this. I came here, already divorced, after stumbling upon SI.com on Reddit. My drama was done, I thought. Yet, I know I didn't have what some people would term my "karma moment". I didn't really have a feeling of justice done. We just walked away and lived our lives apart after the final papers were signed. Every story on here, man or woman, has echoes in my experience, but nothing is exactly the same. So sometimes I know I am getting emotionally invested in what I read, maybe too much. Especially when families are destroyed. That's when I shut up and just offer encouragement, because I don't EVER want to sound like as you describe-- projecting my own shitty life experience on other people's fresh pain. The fact is, you don't know where life will take you. Marriages that experience infidelity DO reconcile from time to time. On the other hand, sometimes the bad guys win, too.
I like your approach to this. You have a line you won't cross, I sense that, yet you are being very matter of fact and sensible about all of it. Trust? (I don't know, maybe some day?), but verify...
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Rex Nihilo, the King of Nothing
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“If you’re going through hell, keep going. Just please stop screaming, it’s not good for morale.”
— Winston Churchill
BS 3 DDays/Attempted R, it failed. In a better place
The1stWife ( Guide #58832) posted at 9:30 PM on Friday, August 21st, 2020
BP
I did not know about this forum during my H’s affair. You know, the one where he’s kicking me to the curb to be with the much younger OW.
I basically acted on my own and common sense. I made mistakes in the beginning. Gave him the benefit of the doubt. Trusted him waaay tooo much. Pick me dance. You get the drill.
Point is that had I been on SI I am positive most would have said run. D him. His second affair. Blah blah blah.
Point is we did reconcile. We did beat the odds. It can happen.
But I would have trusted and respected the posts from the experienced contributors here too. Sometimes people are a bit passionate. I understand why.
Survived two affairs and brink of Divorce. Happily reconciled. 12 years out from Dday. Reconciliation takes two committed people to be successful.
Newlifeisgreat ( member #71308) posted at 12:21 PM on Saturday, August 22nd, 2020
I’m sorry for blending someone else’s incidences with yours
Betrayed Spouse. She cheated and I filed immediately upon discovering. She never even suspected that I knew until the moment she was served with reason being Adultery. Divorced: Sept, 2018. VERY happy with new life, 0 regrets
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