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CharliB (original poster member #59007) posted at 12:54 PM on Tuesday, August 6th, 2019
A week ago, my adult son informed me that his father (my XWH) was planning to go on a sailing adventure out of country. I was told by the Family Responsibility office that there was an order to suspend his passport and he would not be allowed to leave the country (Canada). Not only was he able but he has flown out on Sunday after I received confirmation on Friday that the passport suspension was in place and he would not be allowed to leave due to non-payment. He is 30000$ in arrears owed to me. I am furious.
I am thinking this is an exit strategy and I informed the FRO last week that I believed this was the case. I have checked online and there is no record that the suspension has been lifted or that any payment has been made. How is this possible?
The truth doesn't cost you anything but a lie could cost you everything
FinDad ( member #66434) posted at 1:29 PM on Tuesday, August 6th, 2019
Think positive. You got rid of him. You can always make money.
Marz ( member #60895) posted at 6:01 PM on Tuesday, August 6th, 2019
I would file immediately for compensation from the sale of any assets he may have.
Don't drag your feet on this.
nekonamida ( member #42956) posted at 6:02 PM on Tuesday, August 6th, 2019
Think even more positive - there's a good chance he fled to one of the MANY countries that deport people like him once they catch on. Turns out most places don't want to accept immigrants who are running away from debt.
It sounds like he entered another country illegally or he has a fake passport and is using money to get by. His days are numbered. He's either going to get caught or found out and then he will be served up to you on a silver platter.
WhoTheBleep ( member #49504) posted at 6:43 PM on Tuesday, August 6th, 2019
Think positive. You got rid of him. You can always make money.
I appreciate this perspective, but you wouldn't tell a victim of Grand Larceny to "think positively, the bad guy is in the wind.". And he has fled the country with 30,000 of Charlie B's dollars. That is HER money. I would absolutely be livid as well. If we didn't have young children, I could totally see my WH doing this.
So much for suspending his passport. What happened?
I believe we have two lives: the one we learn with, and the one we live with after that. --The Natural
barcher144 ( member #54935) posted at 8:21 PM on Tuesday, August 6th, 2019
(((CharliB)))
Classy dude! Fucker!
And he has fled the country with 30,000 of Charlie B's dollars. That is HER money. I would absolutely be livid as well.
While I agree that CharliB has every right to be angry... at the same time, if my STBX would accept $30,000 to flee the country and never return? DEAL!
Me: Crap, I'm 50 years old. D-Day: August 30, 2016. Two years of false reconciliation. Divorce final: Feb 1, 2021. Re-married: December 3, 2022.
WhoTheBleep ( member #49504) posted at 12:06 AM on Wednesday, August 7th, 2019
at the same time, if my STBX would accept $30,000 to flee the country and never return? DEAL!
Well when you phrase it that way...
As my IC says, though, "now now now, I know you just want this over with, but you still have to live and raise your kids, Bleep."
I believe we have two lives: the one we learn with, and the one we live with after that. --The Natural
CharliB (original poster member #59007) posted at 1:35 AM on Wednesday, August 7th, 2019
at the same time, if my STBX would accept $30,000 to flee the country and never return? DEAL!
This made me lol.
I'm not really worried about the 30000, although it pisses me off. It's dealing with the mess he has left me with.
I would like to see him served up on a silver platter
I would like to see justice served. For those who remember my story, it has been a long road and so far he has gotten away with everything.
The truth doesn't cost you anything but a lie could cost you everything
WhoTheBleep ( member #49504) posted at 2:20 AM on Wednesday, August 7th, 2019
I would like to see justice served. For those who remember my story, it has been a long road and so far he has gotten away with everything
I can so relate to this CharliB. I confess I look forward to the grinding halt of the WH freight train that's been mowing me down for the last 20 years. I have this fantasy where I'm sitting in court at our trial and the judge says something to the effect of, "Wow, Mr Bleep, you are one of the most horrendous spouses I've ever seen in my courtroom." Something about me getting more than half of our assets usually follows, but isn't necessary. The reprimand from the judge is what I'm really craving. In the fantasy. In reality, I do really need and want the money.
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I believe we have two lives: the one we learn with, and the one we live with after that. --The Natural
CharliB (original poster member #59007) posted at 1:06 PM on Thursday, August 8th, 2019
A government agency confirmed to me that my Ex will be required to pay the amount ( 30000$)in full if he attempts to return to the country. I am not sure if I believe them or not. They told me he wouldn't be able to leave the country and he was able to do that because they didn't have the passport suspension in place in time.( although they told me it was
)
I feel like I am in a game of chess and waiting for my next move with no idea how to proceed.
I feel for my kids who are wondering if their father will come back or be able to.
The truth doesn't cost you anything but a lie could cost you everything
Cooley2here ( member #62939) posted at 3:01 PM on Thursday, August 8th, 2019
There is an old fashion word, scoundrel. That’s what your husband is, he’s a scoundrel. He does not pay child support, he skips the country, and generally does what he wants to do without any regard for other people. There is a book I suggest you read. It is THE SOCIOPATH NEXT DOOR. They are not all axe murderers. They can be your next-door neighbor. What they all have in common is that they don’t care....they don’t care about you, their children or anybody else. They have no conscience. They have no ability to feel empathy.
When things go wrong, don’t go with them. Elvis
CharliB (original poster member #59007) posted at 3:15 PM on Thursday, August 8th, 2019
Thanks Cooley,
I will get my hands on that book. I have done lots of research on narcissism etc. over the past few years and have come to the conclusion that I will never understand the mindset simply because I can't.
I am meeting with a new lawyer today and feeling confident that I will get some answers regarding my next steps in dealing with this new situation.
The truth doesn't cost you anything but a lie could cost you everything
Chrysalis123 ( member #27148) posted at 12:20 PM on Friday, August 9th, 2019
Another good book is:
Why Does He Do That? by Lundy Bancroft
The author works with physically abusive men, but the psychology behind them is very, very similar to your situation. This book has helped many people here on SI.
Someone I once loved gave me/ a box full of darkness/ It took me years to understand/ That this, too, was a gift. - Mary Oliver
Just for the record darling, not all positive changes feel positive in the beginning -S C Lourie
CharliB (original poster member #59007) posted at 9:17 PM on Friday, August 9th, 2019
Yes, Chrysalis, I have read that book. It does shed light on the behaviour. It is still difficult to understand why someone would hop on a plane, knowing they are abandoning their kids/ responsibilities and knowing they can not return without facing arrest.
The truth doesn't cost you anything but a lie could cost you everything
CharliB (original poster member #59007) posted at 11:43 AM on Wednesday, August 21st, 2019
My Ex has returned. I was told by the authorities that he would be apprehended but this is not the case. I'm waiting to find out why.
The truth doesn't cost you anything but a lie could cost you everything
WornDown ( member #37977) posted at 8:37 PM on Wednesday, August 21st, 2019
Do the authorities know he's back? If not, a call is in order.
Me: BH (50); exW (49): Way too many guys to count. Three kids (D, D, S, all >20)Together 25 years, married 18; Divorced (July 2015)
I divorced a narc. Separate everything. NC as much as humanly possible and absolutely no phone calls. - Ch
nekonamida ( member #42956) posted at 8:40 PM on Wednesday, August 21st, 2019
Ugh, Charli, I'm so sorry he's getting away with it at every turn. That has to be so frustrating. I hope your lawyer can serve you up a hot, heappin' plate of justice in due time.
Carissima ( member #66330) posted at 12:30 PM on Thursday, August 22nd, 2019
If he's not been detained then the likelihood is he had all the correct documentation including visas etc sorting he was never leaving the country on a permanent basis. The documents may even have included dates and travel itinerary.
CharliB (original poster member #59007) posted at 1:38 PM on Thursday, August 22nd, 2019
The secrecy surrounding his departure suggested an exit strategy and also the imminent passport suspension. My best guess is that the suspension didn't come in time to prevent travel. There is a lengthy process involved. My issue is that the authorities told me he would not be allowed to return without severe repercussions. Why did they tell me that if it's not the case?
The truth doesn't cost you anything but a lie could cost you everything
Pass ( member #38122) posted at 6:37 PM on Thursday, August 22nd, 2019
I have done lots of research on narcissism etc. over the past few years and have come to the conclusion that I will never understand the mindset simply because I can't.
Here's how I finally was able to understand the special narcissist who was in my life. She has the following motivations:
1. Her interests are more important than anyone else's.
2. She loves to mess with me.
3. Her image to others is the most important thing.
4. If she does anything for me, it's to satisfy 1 through 3.
Sometimes, in my brilliant moments, I use that to help get what I need from her. Most of the time, I just get burned. Luckily, I need very little from her anymore.
I'm sorry you're not getting the promised support from our government agencies.
Divorced the cheater and living my best life now.
The best thing about hitting rock bottom is that everything after that looks fucking fabulous.
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