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sadtoo (original poster member #2027) posted at 4:54 PM on Monday, April 8th, 2013
What time does the show start today?
SisterMilkshake ( member #30024) posted at 5:28 PM on Monday, April 8th, 2013
I am sorry sadtoo, I don't know. Usually here in the Midwest it starts at 12:00 or 12:30. (I see you live in the Midwest, too.) But, can't find the time.
What Mr. Martinez should have said back to ALV when she asked "Are you angry with me?" he should have replied "Is this abuse?" .
BW (me) & FWH both over half a century; married several decades; children
d-day 3/10; LTA (7 years?)
"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak." ~ Homer Simpson
SisterMilkshake ( member #30024) posted at 5:38 PM on Monday, April 8th, 2013
it's ruined for me. As is PopRocks and Tootsie Pops.
Please explain this, I missed this apparently.
BW (me) & FWH both over half a century; married several decades; children
d-day 3/10; LTA (7 years?)
"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak." ~ Homer Simpson
sadtoo (original poster member #2027) posted at 6:48 PM on Monday, April 8th, 2013
it's ruined for me. As is PopRocks and Tootsie Pops.
Please explain this, I missed this apparently.
It means that after this trial, the story of Snow White is ruined. And in case you missed it, pop rocks and tootsie rolls were used as sexual accessories during Jodi and TA's sexual escapades.
sadtoo (original poster member #2027) posted at 6:49 PM on Monday, April 8th, 2013
I wonder if this delay has to do with juror #5 being in the court room?
SisterMilkshake ( member #30024) posted at 6:53 PM on Monday, April 8th, 2013
I understood about Snow White, I heard ALV talk about that, but, ewwwww! I didn't know that the Pop Rocks and Tootsie Roll pops where used sexually. TMI!!! Poor Travis!
BW (me) & FWH both over half a century; married several decades; children
d-day 3/10; LTA (7 years?)
"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak." ~ Homer Simpson
circe ( member #6687) posted at 7:01 PM on Monday, April 8th, 2013
I'm not following the trial - what stage is it in? I did see a news blip about the juror that was dismissed coming back to sit in the courtroom. Anyone know why she's doing that? And if she's been interviewed?
I don't even want to know how someone would use a tootsie roll for sex.
Everything I ever let go of has claw marks on it -- Infinite Jest
SisterMilkshake ( member #30024) posted at 7:09 PM on Monday, April 8th, 2013
The defense is presenting its case now. Jodi has already testified.
Mr. Martinez, the prosecutor, is going to cross examine the defense witness who is an expert in Domestic Violence today.
I haven't heard anything else about Juror #5.
Unfortuantely, I can think of things to do with both Pop Rocks and Tootsie Pops sexually, although I had never thought about it before this thread.
eta: to fix a word and add a word
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BW (me) & FWH both over half a century; married several decades; children
d-day 3/10; LTA (7 years?)
"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak." ~ Homer Simpson
sadtoo (original poster member #2027) posted at 7:19 PM on Monday, April 8th, 2013
I don't even want to know how someone would use a tootsie roll for sex.
SORRY!!
I thought after listening to the testimony in this trial we had all become pretty "numb" to that.
Aubrie ( member #33886) posted at 7:29 PM on Monday, April 8th, 2013
Trial is going. I'm live-streaming. They're talking in circles. Been watching 5 minutes and I'm already dizzy.
SMS, if you missed the PopRocks and TootsiePops, be thou grateful.
This whole thing is just so sad. Good grief.
"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." - J. Wayne
solus sto ( member #30989) posted at 7:34 PM on Monday, April 8th, 2013
I am also slightly disappointed by her hair style. They said it was unique and noticeable in the news, I thought it was typical suburban mom. I was imagining a girl with rainbow colored mohawk.
Me, too! Seriously, they really gave the impression that it was an outlandish hairstyle-and it was...so normal.
BS-me, 62; X-irrelevant; we’re D & NC. "So much for the past and present. The future is called 'perhaps,' which is the only possible thing to call the future. And the important thing is not to let that scare you." Tennessee Williams
SisterMilkshake ( member #30024) posted at 7:51 PM on Monday, April 8th, 2013
I thought it was typical suburban mom
Very similar to the way I style my hair, but I like to think of it as very Posh Spice<(Victoria Beckham).
BW (me) & FWH both over half a century; married several decades; children
d-day 3/10; LTA (7 years?)
"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak." ~ Homer Simpson
SisterMilkshake ( member #30024) posted at 8:43 PM on Monday, April 8th, 2013
I think Mr. Martinez made a great point in showing that ALV thinks Travis is a liar and how does she come to that conclusion.
BW (me) & FWH both over half a century; married several decades; children
d-day 3/10; LTA (7 years?)
"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak." ~ Homer Simpson
sadtoo (original poster member #2027) posted at 9:05 PM on Monday, April 8th, 2013
Shrinking Violet is becoming extremely annoying with her smirksand how she keeps looking at the defense for an answer.
solus sto ( member #30989) posted at 9:37 PM on Monday, April 8th, 2013
But all the talking heads seem to think Alice is just fabulous--"holding her own," etc.
I think she's coming across very poorly. She's uncooperative, and NOT "holding her own." At this point, she just seems obnoxious. (And really, if she were to respond differently, it would be pretty easy for her to make Juan look obnoxious. It seems she's trying to do this, but is failing miserably, IMO.)
I think Juan has done a pretty good job of discrediting her. If 90 percent of meaning is derived from nonverbal communication, she really is hard-pressed to defend her conclusions.
BS-me, 62; X-irrelevant; we’re D & NC. "So much for the past and present. The future is called 'perhaps,' which is the only possible thing to call the future. And the important thing is not to let that scare you." Tennessee Williams
sadtoo (original poster member #2027) posted at 10:33 PM on Monday, April 8th, 2013
Dark Inertia ( member #30727) posted at 2:34 AM on Tuesday, April 9th, 2013
Have you guys read her book review on Amazon? I have to admit, I kind of feel bad for her. In the course of one week this woman has completely demolished her career.... but my favorite review was from another DV expert (this one has a PhD,
) and she said that she never cites ALV because she finds her data outdated and her way of thinking archaic. Yikes.
starrysky ( member #14669) posted at 3:36 PM on Tuesday, April 9th, 2013
Have you guys read her book review on Amazon?
I have & I'm conflicted. On one hand, I feel bad for her because I'm sure she does some good in her line of work (although I sometimes question that because her views ARE archaic). On the other hand, she's pretty much sold herself out for the devil. She's testified Travis was the perpetrator, without ever having met him (because he's dead!) & ONLY going by the words (both written & verbal) of an admitted liar. She's so combative & condescending on the stand, it makes me want to
I kind of thought that after having this weekend (& perhaps seeing those book reviews) she'd be more respectful on the stand yesterday, but nope, she was still battling away. The judge had to instruct her to answer, WITHOUT a qualifer, over 7 times yesterday (yes, I counted LOL). Ugh.
I expect court to start quite late today as the defense team, yet again, submitted a motion late yesterday afternoon for a mistrial.
"The grass is not greener on the other side, it's greener where you water it"
Me(37)-FWW/BS
Him(36)-BH/WH The love of my life
2 Daughters: 15,11
Married 14 years Together 17 years
11 Month EA & PA
Beautifully Reconciled
Random thoughts ( member #2959) posted at 4:01 PM on Tuesday, April 9th, 2013
The "expert " is like the Gloria Allred but of battered and abused women.
She will not answer one question without being a snarky B.
I know all the talking heads are saying that Martinez should tread lightly when asking questions because he might come across as abusive, but my thoughts on this is yes I wouldst agree if it was any other case being tried.
But this is Jodi Arias who slaughtered a man, lied about it to the cops, plotted the murder, drove over a thousand miles to do it.
Men are sitting in the juror seats thinking my wife or girlfriend argue like this and I don't consider myself as an abusive person.
And yes I hope that 250 or whatever the going rate is was worth the crashing of her career because she comes across as a woman who sees abuse everywhere.
Those three words are said too much and not enough.Chasing Cars-Snow Patrol.FWW
sadtoo (original poster member #2027) posted at 5:20 PM on Tuesday, April 9th, 2013
I don't listen to the "talking heads" anymore. I DRV-speed right through them. Remember how "good" they said the prosecution was doing during the Casey Anthony case?
Maybe that's a good sign.
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