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20/20 Hindsight--What I wish I'd done

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Formykids ( member #12653) posted at 3:24 PM on Wednesday, June 20th, 2007

k41,

can you post this in the healing library????

Behind every successful man is his woman, behind the fall of a successful man is the other woman!

Confront the most BRUTAL facts of your current situation, so you are able to come back from difficulties not weakened but stronger!

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What About Bob ( member #8572) posted at 3:33 PM on Wednesday, June 20th, 2007

Just re-reading but this hands down is the best advice on this board!

I had a similar experience. I found some very strong "tell tale" evidence, really got in their faces, etc.

They acted like it had ended while still not even admitting to anything. Basically they cooled their jets for a short time. Things seemed to be getting better so I decided f*ck it and went on my life in bliss...that was in March.

Come August she skips an event "to rest" and my kids wanted to leave the event early so we arrived home sooner than expected. The hood of her car was hot enough to fry eggs and she claims she had been home for over three hours....stupid me, I had let my guard down on the GPS angle.

I should have not said anything and just had her ass served right then in August, but instead like a dumb ass I continued to play their cat and mouse game for a good while after that wasting the better part of a year of my life.

"Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose" Janis Joplin

"God is great, beer is good and people are crazy"

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fallenangel02 ( member #15044) posted at 4:16 PM on Wednesday, June 20th, 2007

great post..

makes sense...

and i feel like i am not alone...after dday i was scared of making H upset...who cares..that should be least of my concerns...!

BS: 26 - me
WH: 31
Dday 1: dec. 27, 2006
dday 2:june 14th 2007

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redips ( member #14592) posted at 6:34 PM on Wednesday, June 20th, 2007

I have read this several times. In my head I know this is brilliant, but I haven't been strong enough to follow it- YET. I know I am being used. I know he thinks he can have both of us. I just have to find my strength. I know it is in me somewhere.

Also one thing I know I would have done differently is gather more information before I confronted him. I found some text messages on his cell and just knew there must be a good explanation for them because I have never not trusted him. Of course the explanation was "We're just friends"

Me-BSO: 28
Him-WSO: 29
Together 10 years
No Kids
D-Day: 5/8/07

No one falls in love by choice, it is by CHANCE. No one stays in love by chance, it is by WORK. And no one falls out of love by chance, it is by CHOICE.

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bkewidow ( member #14205) posted at 7:55 PM on Friday, June 22nd, 2007

Bump for newbies.

I am sad there are newbies.

J

DDay: 3/30/07
Married 14 years, together 16
One kid; mine, Three kids; ours
DDay 2 - Oct. 2007
Confirmed OW1 (from 8 yrs ago)

Women might be able to fake an orgasm, but apparently my husband could fake an entire relationship.

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k94ever ( member #11176) posted at 8:10 PM on Friday, June 22nd, 2007

But J.,

Be glad that God put us here and now to help them......

"Sometimes you chose your trials; sometimes our trials chose us."

k9

BS:61
WS: 53
Betrayed: 24 years
Affairs: 15 (2 lasted 3 months. Rest were ONS)
WS died: 16 May 2011
Do not stay in your hurt forever. Choose to move out of it.

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lostsuol ( member #13706) posted at 4:01 PM on Saturday, June 23rd, 2007

H is out of town on business and the doubts are pouring in.

Re-reading 20/20 Hindsight to keep focussed.

Thanks K41!

Still a struggle...

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 katherine41 (original poster member #5792) posted at 3:01 AM on Wednesday, July 4th, 2007

^^^

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thyme2go ( member #12908) posted at 6:22 PM on Friday, July 6th, 2007

katherine41

Thanks for sharing. And so true!

-t2g

BH - no longer 50
3 DD's - (32, 28 and 21)
Divorced on 8/6/09

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mom of 2 ( member #11214) posted at 12:06 AM on Thursday, July 12th, 2007

Me: BW
Divorced after 23 years of M thanks to XH's truth trickle.
Status: Recovering and healing. It's going to be a long hard road.

Update November 2013: It only took seven years but I finally turned a corner. :)

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k9lover1 ( member #8531) posted at 5:15 PM on Monday, July 16th, 2007

bump

D-Day was 10/9/05
He promised NC. He lied. After 4 chances, I kicked him out 1/05/06.
Since then I have survived cancer surgery and a heart attack.
Now he's sorry, but it's too late. He died an alcoholic on 9/5/17.

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Marlene1 ( member #15332) posted at 5:29 PM on Monday, July 16th, 2007

6. Never reveal your sources

Listen to me. Never reveal your sources. An unremorseful or foggy WS will lie to the bitter end. They will swear on their children, their parents, on the Bible, etc. Just believe in yourself and your evidence. If you are confronting the WS, don't reveal the way you got your info. If they lie, just keep repeating, "You are lying and I know it."

I like this one. That is what I did the last time I caught him in a bunch of lies. He still asks me,"How did you find out?" He's convinced I hired a private investigator. It's kind of sad that I am so good at this now. Too tiring!

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grillo ( member #15250) posted at 10:50 PM on Monday, July 16th, 2007

SuspiciousMinds put in a VERY important one for BSs in the fog:

If you walk out, then you you need to get a place for kids to visit you, since you will not be hanging around this house evenings and weekends, pretending to yourself that hanging around on a Saturday afternoon and mowing the lawn makes up for the fact you looked for a replacement for your spouse and found one.

My STBX WH DB is STILL saying< "i can mow the lawn... put in the air conditioners... blah blah blah"

NO YOU CAN'T - I'd rather die in a pile of sweaty weeds than have you work to alleviate your guilt and spend time pretending this is still your home.

I wanted - OH SO WANTED - to believe he was doing this because he.. gasp.. cared.

NO - do NOT let yourself be suckered into this one! It's a BIGGIE!

me - bs
DB (be creative) - WH
kids- 2 gorgeous boys
OW - married w/2 teeny kids - EW
together 12 years - M - 10
ME: "Ophelia - I so get it!"

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PissedOff ( member #15174) posted at 2:07 AM on Tuesday, July 17th, 2007

Then, if WS had not de-fogged or was breaking NC with OP after two months, I wish I had proceeded to . . .

9. NC

I did this immediately after FWH left to live with his sister (and carry on his AP and co-worker). At this point, I still thought it was an EA. Well, one week after NC, he confessed to everything. After another 3 weeks of me not answering his calls, texts, etc, he went PSYCHO, quit his job, ended contact with OW and has been repentant and remorseful ever since. I can't and won't tolerate anything less. He's already made a fool of me by even having the A. I refuse to be a fool after knowing the whole truth.

NC either:

a) Unclouds the fog QUICK and makes WS' realize what their losing with their dicking around

b) Nothing and the WS' had never planned to change their ways anyway.

BS(Me): 29
FWH: 31
Children: 4
Together: 16 yrs, married 8 yrs
One year-EA/PA affair with 21 y/o MOW(and co-worker).
Final DDay: April 07 (PA reveal)
Status: R since 6/2007

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still confounded ( member #7826) posted at 3:20 AM on Friday, July 20th, 2007

bumping for newbies (again)

Healing Library nominee!!!

"Sometimes, the rest of your life starts with goodbye."
D-day April 2005
(Married 33 years, together 35)
Divorced Dec. '05
Life is good, but it took a long time to heal.

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still confounded ( member #7826) posted at 6:59 PM on Wednesday, July 25th, 2007

... and again.

"Sometimes, the rest of your life starts with goodbye."
D-day April 2005
(Married 33 years, together 35)
Divorced Dec. '05
Life is good, but it took a long time to heal.

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fourtimesacharm ( member #14585) posted at 7:15 PM on Wednesday, July 25th, 2007

Healing Library is a MUST for this post.

One of the best I have read!!!!

Really defines what all BS's feel.

Hindsight is definitely 20/20, I wish I had this on D-day from someone who knows how it feels!!!

Updated status: divorcing after reconciliation for 1.5 years.
BS:31 WS :33 last d-day 03-26-07

Seperated 4/6/07
Trying to move on

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misto1976 ( member #14803) posted at 7:17 PM on Wednesday, July 25th, 2007

Great post -- just found it but I'm so glad I had been following this "plan" all along. I wouldn't take anything less than quick action to my demands (quit working with OW, and absolutely NC) and consistent remorse. He still to this day is the one that brings up our frequent long talks about the A and how sorry he is. Don't settle for anything less for yourselves!!! You are worth happiness.

Me - FBS/FWS (EA) 31
Him - FBS/FWH 30
Three kids
DDay - Feb. 21, 2007
R - Feb. 23, 2007 Still working every day
OW - is a not going to invade my thoughts anymore :)

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lostsuol ( member #13706) posted at 7:49 PM on Wednesday, July 25th, 2007

misto...

I wish I could say that of my H. I still don't know if the EA became PA (as most here will attest to that is what happens and there was opportunity). And he never initiates any conversation of the affair (DDay Feb 07).

Still a struggle...

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lizard1962 ( new member #15480) posted at 8:28 PM on Wednesday, July 25th, 2007

Thank you for taking time to do this for us. I am hanging on your every word before I screw up my life even worse and trust too soon...

WS seems remorseful and has agreed to be an open book so far (a few days)...are you saying that if things go well for a solid month or longer..remorse, nc, honesty etc...you would not

Out the OP to their spouse, their job, their friends, etc?

Timing is huge and I am trying to figure it out. We are working towards R, but nothing is in stone of course.

Me: BS - 45
Him: WH -46
Kids: 2 boys - 19 and 22
Married: since 1983
D-Day 1 - 7/22/07
Status: Working it out

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