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Is he cheating or do i have it wrong?

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aliveagain ( member #25751) posted at 7:08 PM on Saturday, March 27th, 2010

I would just add to your list of requirements that you want all of the truth, he has one opportunity to give it to you.

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realitybites ( member #6908) posted at 7:34 PM on Saturday, March 27th, 2010

It may be too late, but I do have to agree with the other poster. He has done NOTHING at all to even remotely think that he wants to R with you. Nothing. He is in fact disrespecting you, lying to you, living apart and now talking to a lawyer. I know that YOU would like to possibly R, and it is not unusual for a new BS to still reach out and attempt to save what they have. But I truly do not think he is in any place or mind to even hear you, he probably will not even read it past the first paragraph. I know that hurts, and I know you are ready to have another baby. But I am so proud of you that you have gotten this far, that you got angry, that you packed up his clothes, that you went to child welfare, that you are going to speak to an attorney....you are an amazing woman, you are strong. At this moment he does not even deserve one iota of anything at all from you. Keep moving forward, keep working on you and the children, prepare yourself for this baby.

I truly mean this with all sincerity....do not dignify him with giving him another chance. Down the road, when he is possibly not so foggy and selfish he might finally realize what a monster he is right now...but until he does, he does not deserve, nor has he even asked for a chance with you. That is what is so crappy about this...he is clearly running away, this man opened up his own checking account and is making you have to ask for money!! He wanted half of your furniture when there are 2 children at home and another 1 month away!

He is a complete douche.

Stop expecting loyalty from people who cannot even give you honesty.

He stopped being my husband the first time he cheated. It took me awhile to understand that I was no longer his wife.

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Chunk ( member #8189) posted at 8:23 PM on Saturday, March 27th, 2010

He is a complete douche.

I have to agree with this 100%.

I'm sorry he is putting you through hell when you are your most vulnerable.

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mommyoffour ( new member #28039) posted at 3:52 AM on Tuesday, March 30th, 2010

I am going through the same thing....except she used to be my best friend. She is going through a divorce and is pulling from me. My husband has been see at her apartment on the days he isn't sleeping here and her husband has phone records...he blames me and says I am not a good friend to her and he's helping her out w/the divorce. He says he can't stand my anxiety over this and wants a divorce...we have 4 kids and I still love him....I don't want this...I want the old him back...he said TH he wants a divorce and hasn't done anything and still has his wedding ring on....

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 threepunkins (original poster new member #27990) posted at 4:28 AM on Thursday, April 1st, 2010

I went to a lawyer yesterday to speak about my rights in relation to the car loan in particular (which is in his name but is currently paying off half of my car).

The lawyer drafted up a letter for him saying that he needs to take on responsibility of paying for the monthly car loan. She called him this morning and apparently he told her that if I had acted more maturely and agreed to talk to him then all this would have been sorted...wtf! once again if I had acted maturely...this coming from the man who WALKED OUT on his pregnant wife and children for no other reason than he was "over it"...

Me: 28
WH: 28
M 8years, 2kids + baby due in may
(He walked out on 16-feb-10 after i confronted him over an EA he was having with a "good friend" from work. He is in denial, says he doesn't love me anymore. Refuses IC, MC or R)

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Cee64D ( member #21836) posted at 6:15 AM on Thursday, April 1st, 2010

Punkin, get your lawyer to GUT him. He deserves every bit of it. No "person" who would walk out on a pregnant wife deserves to be called a Man.

I'd still contact her ex and find out what he knows. Any documentation he may have could be useful to your lawyer.

The hardest part of forgiveness is accepting it from others...
Me BH 44
Clarrissa FWW 44
D-Day 04 Oct, 2008

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Edie ( member #26133) posted at 9:04 AM on Thursday, April 1st, 2010

If it is not too late I suggest slipping this text into the package. I'm afraid he is too foggy tobe interested in your words at the moment, so use other people's, so its not 'you' telling him.

Low Self Esteem Overall, cheating is done by men with mixed, conflicting or weak values. They are not firm in their commitment, in their identity of who they wish to be, neither are they sure of what they really want in life. They tend to have low self-esteem and a lack of trust in others. No matter how 'good' or faithful the partner is, having one woman is not enough. There is always someone better outside. Perhaps being deprived of expressive love when they were younger, particularly from their mothers, there is always a doubt in their minds as to how worthy they are to women. Add to that, the competitive nature of their world, where they are always trying to impress their peers, and the usual answer is also to try to impress as many women as they can to uplift their feelings of self worth - regardless of the quality of life at home. But that merely causes heartache for the chosen women, while reinforcing the men's low self-esteem as 'bad' guys or 'bastards' in a never-ending circle.

The serial philanderer is marked by a strong desire to 'prove' something, though he is not quite sure what that is. However, it is usually about his virility, control of women, or ability to attract women. Men who go from one woman to another are also the worst at having that done to them, always feeling indignant at their women daring to fancy someone else because that is all part of what they are trying to prove, that they are the best lovers. Yet they are likely to be very poor lovers because it is always about them, no one else, and so they tend to take instead, finding it very difficult to truly give of themselves.

Unhappy Men Married men, and those in long term relationships, cheat mainly because they believe that having a short-term affair will temporarily resolve any problems they have at home and prevent them from 'hurting' anyone long term. The fact that their partner is already being hurt by their lack of attention and affection - and being prevented from finding love too - does not seem to come into the picture. There are three problems with this approach. First, it stops the major conflicts in the relationship being acknowledged, explored and addressed. Second, it makes the situation worse because any liaison only proves starkly what is already missing at home, especially sexually. Thirdly, it deliberately ignores the fact that the man is taking his affections elsewhere which begs the question: How does giving one's self to someone else shows love and affection for the person left at home and, above all, accord her due respect for her love and support?

Finally, men in relationships stray through a conflict of perception. What their women perceive that men want from them might not be necessarily what those men actually desire, and women seldom seek to find out because they are afraid of the answers! So after the honeymoon period is over, when their heartfelt desires haven't been fulfilled, spouses soon seek it elsewhere. In the meantime the women who are affected turn on the men and blame them for their 'bad' behaviour instead of looking into themselves to see where they have missed a connection and, at worse, getting out of their demoralising situation. It is always easier to vilify others because it stops us looking at ourselves, but women aren't tied to philandering men. They can actually make a life for themself on their terms by CHOOSING to act differently. Each person is responsible for their lives. It is fear which keeps them stuck while they wait in vain for the men to change.

Fearing Commitment The next major group of 'cheating' men are the ones who fear commitment. They want a 'secure' home, with all the trimmings, one they can return to at the end of the day, but they do not like to perceive themselves as 'married' or long term partners, stuck to one person. They like to keep their options open and so they seek 'fun', which carries the implication that marriage, or being in a relationship, is 'serious' business so one has to get the fun outside! They miss the supreme irony that if they are in a really great relationship, it would be automatic in fun and enjoyment because any relationship is supposed to make them happy. Not make them feel so terrible that they need to have 'fun' elsewhere. This category also contains ageing men who are worried about getting older and believe that by starting again with someone else, usually someone younger, it will give them a new lease of life and make them feel better, while they preserve the status quo at home to ensure the benefits from both sides.

Women as 'Victims' This question also affects women more than the might believe. Women also condone such cheating by their behaviour in sustaining it through fear of the consequences of their own reaction, and the pay-off they get from having the men with them. Women who put up with such soul-destroying behaviour by constantly 'forgiving', have no self-love or respect either. They are prepared to forgive for their own benefit too. There is always some pay-off for doing that, otherwise they would not be living in denial hoping the men will change when only self-change guarantees real alteration in such situations. Many times it is also to 'punish' the men for their actions, but they only end up punishing themselves too through ongoing bitterness, resentment and pain, while becoming less attractive in the process! Negativity only destroys, it doesn't build anything. So if your man is a serial philanderer, you really are only hurting yourself and need to get out of there. Everyone is entitled to a second chance. But if he is on his third affair, he has had two chances too many, and will merely continue doing it because your presence teaches him that he can get away with it.

Women in these situations usually believe that they 'love' the men who perpetuate such gross disrespect to them, and they are loved in return. But it has nothing to do with love. Love does not seek to hurt. Love appreciates, is unconditional and at its heart is respect for the individual. Where there is no respect for a person and their feelings, there is no love. And whereever someone will continually put up with something that is detrimental to themself, while they keep blaming another for their predicament, you will find firm evidence of the absence of their own self-love and respect. There will also be the deep-seated belief that they do not deserve anything better. They are likely to believe that their man, as 'bad' as he is, will be the only one to love them. And so they stay put, trying to 'love' their man, while dying inside from exclusion, hurt and neglect. Very, very sad, indeed, but only they have the power to change their situation by seeing it for what it really is: simple, relentless emotional abuse which will damage them in the end.

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Bigger ( Attaché #8354) posted at 1:55 PM on Thursday, April 1st, 2010

He will lash out. That’s a given. It requires a lot of maturity and focus to go through a dispute like a divorce (and what’s going on here is the preliminary part of a divorce) without making it “personal”.

This will sound cold and cruel but the legal aspect of divorce hasn’t got anything to do with emotions but is basically a business transaction. It’s a negotiation of what financial responsibilities and financial benefits have been accepted by the marriage and how to divide them in a fair way. If you can focus on this being a business transaction and detach from the emotional part then dealing with the reality of THIS part of divorce will be easier.

Your husband will make this personal. He will lash out. He will be waiting for a reaction and it will escalate if you feed it. Ignore it and he will lash out harder. Ignore that and he will lash out even harder. But eventually he will give up.

If you can then refer all issues regarding the divorce to your lawyer. Don’t take part in any argument with him about the car loan, finances or anything like that. Refer them to your lawyer. If your husband persists in talking about details with you then have your lawyer send him a letter asking him to desist as the stress is detrimental to your health and can have negative effects on the pregnancy. Have the lawyer threaten a restraining order.

I have two suggestions to consider:

You mention his father. Do his parents know of the affair? Make sure they know why this is happening. Blood does run thick and they will have his interests in mind but it can be a good idea to let grandparents know that you don’t want to limit their access to the grandkids after a divorce. It also does not hurt (if you want to reconcile) to let them know that you do hope your husband get’s his head out of his ass and smells the roses.

The car-loan. If it’s in his name and he makes the payments then any non-payment or cancelation will affect HIM and HIS credit rating. He can’t hurt you without hurting himself even more. And taking your car from you now would reflect very badly in court. If his actions force you to get an old, less safe car to get you and your kids around then that will come back and kick him HARD later on. I’m certain that IF he does something drastic about the car you will find a solution. A friend will loan you a car, a relative will drive you around, and you will find a cheap car…. Whatever. Things will work out and this will “only” be an inconvenience and not a major issue for you.

"If, therefore, any be unhappy, let him remember that he is unhappy by reason of himself alone." Epictetus

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lost25 ( new member #10597) posted at 2:15 PM on Thursday, April 1st, 2010

I did the same thing blamed myself he did the same thing said they were just good friends but it was more. He moved out on me too but it's so he doesnt have to see you and feel guilty not because something you said. I know its hard to see clearly when you are going thru it because you dont want to believe it and you tell yourself maybe you are wrong but I never was and I think you are not either. Be strong for you and your kids. Maybe the time away will do him some good. Mine came and went three times. I still want to kick myself for letting him come and go as he pleased. Good luck

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