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I want a boob lift badly. H says they are perfect. I call bullshit

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Pain, my ww had her's done and it was incredible. She was originally an A cup since she only weighed like 100 lbs but after our son was born they sagged and her hips widened and she was bottom wide with nothing on top. She went C's which looked great but after the loss of a child went into a depression gained about 70 lbs and stretched them out badly. The second job was DD witha full lift and now at 46 she has the boobs of an 18 year old, never having to even wear a bra. She loves them. Of course, I blame them for our problems as she went nuts after getting them and let everything go to her head and .........

[This message edited by 99lawdog99 at 12:24 PM, June 25th (Wednesday)]

My dad said the sweetest thing on my parents' anniversary a couple months ago about how proud he is of the job my mom did raising all their children (4 of us). He knew he couldn't handle being a SAHD, but he said he was bummed to work nights and not be there for us during the week for homework, etc.. But now he's a retired old bird who's so much fun to be around! Damn did it make me feel good hearing how much he appreciated my mom for everything she did, cause I sure as hell appreciated them being a team and raising all us kids. As a kid, having a SAHM was the best. When it's true teamwork, the results can be amazing, and I think a lot of guys actually DO appreciate the sacrifices women make to stay at home with the kids. Laundry, dishes cooking, and cleaning up after little brats sure does get old!

And don't worry, hopeless. I'm all about sex in the past tense right now too. But between abstinence and fucking a guy who is double dipping his wang around town on the sly, I'll take being a born-again virgin, thank you very much..

wow this thread really took off.

I guess were men of mystery after all. Personally though I always thought we (men) were pretty transparent..

Although all this is fun I think that topics like this are subject to generalization.. So let the questions continue but remember that as far as YOUR guy is concerned YMMV.

As far as attractiveness goes. gray/white hair. boobs. etc. I have always been drawn to women who seem to be comfortable in her own skin. Not in a over confident and in your face sort of way. But in a *this is who I am* way. So if a woman dresses differently than the fashion. Or looks like she dresses for comfort rather than wear stupid shoes and a too short dress. Then Im interested.

Im also attracted to women who seem to have a sense of self respect. Mostly if she seems fit. meaning that she respects herself enough to take care of her self. Not OVER fit or overblown in any direction. But is fit and comfortable with herself.

Im also attracted to the quirky ones. Rather than a woman that could have come off a assembly line. I like a woman who looks interesting. Someone that looks like they would be interesting to talk to.

As to SAHMs having affairs. That bothers me allot. I was working my ass off during WWs LTA. She was working but barely putting in 8 hour days. While I was doing 12+ hours every day. I sacrificed allot for our financial security. And (I know I will get knocked around for this) I think that the $$ I earned during her LTA should not have to get divided with her getting +50% of should I eventually D her.

As to sex positions and eye contact. Ive always been the more adventurous one in the sack. WW likes missionary. period. Once in a great while we will do something different. But thats rare. Ive always wanted more variety but have had to give that up over the years. Somehow considering that I think its odd that SHE had the LTA.

Eye contact? During sex I am totally consumed by the act with her. For me eye contact is unnecessary because I am totally immersed in her. She is the totality of what I am thinking and doing. There really is nothing else going on in my mind. Eye contact can actually be distracting for me.

I never think of another woman or have any wishes about having sex with someone else during sex.

I mentioned earlier that my desire is for sex to be completely physically and emotionally intimate. Unfortunately I am M to a woman for whom emotional intimacy is impossible. So when not having sex with WW I sometimes wish I could have that level of intimacy with another woman.

When we have sex from behind are you secretly pretending or wishing that we were someone else???

No. Never. But in a way it's not my W either. It's very impersonal. Not to be crass, but from that angle, you could be (almost) anyone. But that position isn't about you. It's about me. Don't get me wrong, FWW says she loves it. But I'm doing what feels good to me.

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I think I asked a really dumb, insensitive question considering what forum I'm on.

Always consider your audience.

I had a stray at home wife (is that Trademarked Tred?). She worked outside of the home a few hours a week. Just enough to meet her cooworker OM.

But your question was not dumb. In fact if you rephase it such as: After your SAHM WW cheated did you feel resentful of her SAHM status?

The answer to that is hell yes. Now she works full time. Something about "idle hands" and "devil's workshop".

[This message edited by MindMonkey at 12:56 PM, June 25th (Wednesday)]

damn, shoulda responded before so many questions came up.... uhhhhh in no partikular order...

menage-yeah, I gotta admit once upon a time(20+yrs ago), it was a fantasy-fWW was living with a nice looking but crazy blonde gal

boobs-yeah they were perfect before, and perfect now, boobs are always good--- big small medium, it's something we don't have ya know

no i don't think about other women when we doggy

Did any womenz fantasize it was another guy back there? Cause we could very easily..

Like Mr. Monkey, I wasn't too worried who was back there, I was just happy it felt good.

After your SAHM WW cheated did you feel resentful of her SAHM status?

I'm pissed I TOLD him I wanted to be a SAHM, and I never got to, and he never took the opportunity to more than double his money at work until after we split. Now he's making all this money for the OW, and I fucking sacrificed for my family. And he squandered MY TIME and MY CHILDREN'S TIME on some cheap slut single mom. And he left his WIFE, forcing her to now be a single mom! Grrrrr. FTG.

But thanks guys for restoring my faith that they are real menz in this world. I knew I got a defective version.

Must say, I'm pretty fucking resentful too.

Eye contact? During sex I am totally consumed by the act with her. For me eye contact is unnecessary because I am totally immersed in her. She is the totality of what I am thinking and doing. There really is nothing else going on in my mind. Eye contact can actually be distracting for me.

It doesn't have to be eye contact. He could have at least looked at me...some part of me. I don't know. I guess it really doesn't matter anymore.

Are there any men out there who have a SAHM wife who DON'T resent her for staying at home?

I didn't resent my xww for being a SAHM. I did resent how she would do nothing all day while I was working two jobs. I certainly wasn't thrilled when she asked me to fix her something to eat when I got home at 11pm from my 2nd job.

Do you think silver-gray hair on a woman is unattractive?

Not at all.

What is the male obsession with guns about?

They require skill and responsibility. They challenge you like any weapon would. I'm fascinated with weapons throughout history. Many weapons used in martial arts today were literally adapted from farm implements. Men who had families and a piece of the world they had to defend.

Is it true that menz priorities are 1. Money 2. Women 3. Anything else he chooses ?

Mine pre-D...

1. Family

2. Career

3. Whatever was left

post-D...still trying to figure that out.

During sex when the woman is on top do men turn their heads and look away because they are "concentrating?"

If by concentrating you mean trying not "finish" too soon then sometimes, but my preference was too be able to see.

When we have sex from behind are you secretly pretending or wishing that we were someone else???

That was never my motivation. Different angle, feels different.

During sex when the woman is on top do men turn their heads and look away because they are "concentrating?"

Ive heard of men that 'look away to concentrate' on lasting longer...could that be his reason?

Ive heard of men that 'look away to concentrate' on lasting longer...could that be his reason?

Yeah, the old "think about Baseball" ploy. Nothing is more embarrassing than finishing way too soon.

Gentlemen:

What most makes you feel respected?

Every now and then i would just like an honest opinion of how i am doing as a mate. This is important because too often are guys told "That's just what a man does". It kind of forces you into a strereotype. A few kind words of acknowledge meant would be more than a little nice. I would not object to some meaningful hugs as well.

Ok, so y'all think about "Baseball" when you're trying not to finish?

Anything else?

(Trying to decipher those weird faces my ex used to make, lol. He didn't really think about ugly naked people, did he?)

ETA: I hate how I have to talk about sex in the past tense now. How long does it take to be a born again virgin?

There's a difference between a "born again virgin," which seems to have a faith connection - pledging to not engage in sex again until married - and being "re-virginized," which just means you're on the bus for so long, you can't remember what sex is like.

I think consensus on the bus thread has been seven years for re-virginization, although the Urban Dictionary says something about 3.5 years. Either way, it's a long LONG time.

I really hate that I know so much about this topic. *sigh*

Other than affairs/infidelity: What makes you feel disrespected by your woman?

I call this the out of sight syndrome. It goes along with the other question posted here. In most cases it involves not being able to see how things work as long as they work for you. Things like rent/mortgage/ medical/Taxes and the last peice of pie. FWW lost employment for 2.5 years once. I backed her as any decent husband should but any frorm of money that came to hjer went for her expenses instead of the homestead. It would have been decent to at least offer to adjust the houselhold income so i didn't have to juggle so much to keep up appearances. Before our marriage isigned her into my insurance as a domestic partner. Accordingly the difference was added onto my salary as income. That resulted in a bit of a tax problem later on. She was irate over it saying i messed things up in my taxes that would affect our bottom line.

I paid of the lien that was only there so she could have medical coverage but she didn't see it that way. She saw it as something stupid i had done.

(Trying to decipher those weird faces my ex used to make, lol. He didn't really think about ugly naked people, did he?)

Reminds me of a comedian saying that his wife was complaining about him yelling *slide! slide!* during sex.

I think we (men) all have different strategies when it comes to how to avoid finishing early. *baseball* (a game I dislike and just dont get) is just a metaphor for whatever that personal strategy is.

Are you asking what that strategy is? because Im pretty sure it will be different for everyone.

Sorry for the length, here are a whole bunch of answers.

Threeway?

Had a FFM once. Gotta admit, it was cool. It was a lot of pressure though. I felt like I was hosting a party and had to make sure all my guests were happy. I've thought that MMF could be more fun: I could just selfishly do whatever I want, and everyone would probably enjoy. Of course, the idea of sharing is something that no longer appeals to me - especially since my DDay had me discovering The Princess was going to be in a FFM threesome the next day. Does she have any idea how much porn she has ruined for me?

What do I think when I see hoo-haa?

The hoo-haa is just a lovely creation. I have never seen one that I didn't like. They've all been different, and they've all been beautiful. I know that sounds like bullshit, but totally true.

Boobs?

I always try to not act like a teenage boy about them, but they're fabulous. I just want at them. Smaller ones are perkier, bigger ones are bigger, they all have their bonusses. And none of them sag when they're in our hands.

Aging bodies?

I loved my wife's body. I saw it every day while we were married, so I never had any realization of "Wow, that used to be way up there!". I was looking forward to getting old and ugly with her. Now I'm pissed off because I am dating with this aging body of mine. Why couldn't I have dumped her when I was young and gorgeous? I had a couple pictures of her on my iPad from my kid's grad yesterday. NOW I'm noticing the changes. She isn't as hot as either one of us thought she was.

Fist fights without grudges?

I was never able to do that. Never understood anyone who could.

What is one thing a partner can do to completely turn a man on?

For me, the safe answer is just to be turned on and make a first move. It's amazing to have a woman who obviously wants to be with you. The embarrassing answer is masturbation. There is nothing better than watching a woman service herself - not every time or anything, but if it happens once in a while it's great. I think both answers come down to having a woman who is confident and excited.

WWE?

I just can't watch it. Always thought it was shit.

Why would a man not want to have intercourse with his partner but possibly do "everything" else?

I hate when people refer to "foreplay". It implies that it's what happens before the ACTUAL sex starts. It's all good and all fun. Let's face it: Once we're in there going for broke, there is a limited time it can last. But the pre-game stuff is amazing and can last for hours.

The feel of post-pregnancy hoo-haa?

Just my personal experience: My fingers can tell a difference, but my bits can't. All my bits care about is if there's something there.

Head over heals in love?

Done it. Hours after I met the Princess. I knew I wanted to be with her.

Silver-gray hair on a woman?

That stuff is gorgeous. The Princess had been dying her hair since she was 20, and I kept telling her she would be beautiful as a grey. She never believed me.

What most makes you feel respected?

Compliments are nice. Never got any of those from Whatsername. Affection that you initiate is nice too.

When we have sex from behind are you secretly pretending or wishing that we were someone else???

Nope. It was just another position. It accentuates your hourglassness, and makes you look amazing!

During sex when the woman is on top do men turn their heads and look away because they are "concentrating?"

I never looked away. This is the best position to give men access to practically everything. Sometimes we do need to concentrate to finish the job, but I've never had to close my eyes for that.

As a womenz, usually everyone is rooting for me to finish, not hold out longer

So uh, yeah, I don't have any baseball tips, and I'd be curious to hear some strategy.

I could play along and be the coach and blow a whistle and tell him to hold up on second for a few more minutes.

During sex when the woman is on top do men turn their heads and look away because they are "concentrating?"

I've heard of men that 'look away to concentrate' on lasting longer...could that be his reason?

This could be. I do remember a few times (pre-cheating) where we would be in a different position (from behind or doggy, whatever you want to call it) where his "stamina" was very short lived.

I guess this brings me to another question. I'm sorry if this has been asked and I missed it. Do different positions feel different? Is there a certain position that is more "mind-blowing" and another is "meh...?"

I guess this brings me to another question. I'm sorry if this has been asked and I missed it. Do different positions feel different? Is there a certain position that is more "mind-blowing" and another is "meh...?"

They do feel different. Every one I've tried has felt pretty damn good. There were a few times when she was on top and got a little rough when it hurt me, though.

I've thought that MMF could be more fun

I find this surprising. Most men I've talked to would never do MMF. They were willing to consider MFM though.