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				    				 Foolmeonce120 (original poster  new member #69814)		posted at 10:05 PM on Wednesday, February 20th, 2019	
			 
	He became detached 
 
 
	Moody 
 
 
	Hiding phone, taking it to the bathroom, never leaving it unattended, and closing it out if I got too close to him. 
 
 
	Extremely horny and more adventurous in bed. 
 
 
	Staying up later (to chat with her while I’m in bed) 
 
 
	Going out drinking with the guys A LOT. 
 
			 			BS-me 39
WS- him 43
Together for almost 20 years. 
Found out late July 2018 in the process of R. Going well but still hurting. 
		
	 	 			
				    				SaddestDad ( member #69800)		posted at 10:06 PM on Wednesday, February 20th, 2019	
			 
	How was the extreme horniness and bedventurous a sign? 
 
			 			Life is a wheel. Sooner or later everything you'd left behind comes around again. For good or ill, it comes around again.
For what profit is to a man if he gains the world but loses his own soul?
BH 32
WW 34 Change4thebetter
Working hard		
	 	 			
				    				The1stWife ( Guide #58832)		posted at 10:08 PM on Wednesday, February 20th, 2019	
			 
	Not one sign until the night of Dday1. 
 
 
	No missing $, not late, not mean or argumentative- nothing. 
 
 
	That night he was late but that wasn’t unusual. 
 
 
	But I had a suspicion of something and asked him what was going on and he told me that he had just started having an A about a month prior. 
 
 
	He admitted it. That is how I knew. 
 
			 			Survived two affairs and brink of Divorce. Happily reconciled. 12 years out from Dday. Reconciliation takes two committed people to be successful.		
	 	 			
				    				WilliamM ( member #60910)		posted at 10:24 PM on Wednesday, February 20th, 2019	
			 
	My wife always came home on time, always answered her phone, always let me know where she was going and who she was seeing.  I had no issue with her having male friends.  I had female friends and never crossed that line.  With her family history and living in a house with her father who had multiple affairs, and the sadness and pain she saw and felt first hand, I thought I had no worries.  I was so naive, dumb, and trusting.  The sad part was she was honest with me about where she was going.  She hid what she was doing.  I trusted her.  She would tell me, "I am going to see "POS AP1 and I will be home in about an hour or two."  I would say "Ok.  See you later."  I did not know that she was having an affair with these guys.  All of that ended on D-Day.  My naivety and trust was swept away.  She asked me to look up something in her email.  Once I was in there, I got curious and found way more than I expected. 
 
			 		 			
				    				twisted ( member #8873)		posted at 10:43 PM on Wednesday, February 20th, 2019	
			 
	A new phone showed up.  She said it was a loaner. "From who?" 
 
 
	The same guy at work I was suspicious about  about a year earlier. He had sent an inappropriate email to her. 
 
 
	I started getting nosey.  Turns out the the phone thing was legit! But I uncovered a helluva lot more than I ever expected. 
 
			 			"Hey, does this rag smell like chloroform to you?		
	 	 			
				    				 Foolmeonce120 (original poster  new member #69814)		posted at 10:45 PM on Wednesday, February 20th, 2019	
			 
	@saddestdad I didn’t realize it was a sign at first until he told me that’s how he was feeling during the A. 
 
 
	I did some research and it is actually common. 
 
			 			BS-me 39
WS- him 43
Together for almost 20 years. 
Found out late July 2018 in the process of R. Going well but still hurting. 
		
	 	 			
				    				IJusthurt2017 ( member #62266)		posted at 1:40 AM on Thursday, February 21st, 2019	
			 
	Other than all of a sudden never putting his phone down, I had no idea. I got curious when he never put down the phone,  even sleeping with it. He wasn't on it hardly at all but never sat it down. 
 
			 	 			
				    				Marie2792 ( member #44958)		posted at 2:15 AM on Thursday, February 21st, 2019	
			 
	Scratches on his back he claimed were from building furniture in hotel rooms he was setting up. 
 
 
	Finding a reason to hang with the boys on a Sunday night after we’d been in the beach all day. 
 
 
	We were out of town one weekend for my brothers wedding and I got very sick very quickly and didn’t want to drive home.  He insisted we couldn’t sleep at my mothers (it was a Saturday night) because he had to be at work.   I was violently illl and he showed little concern. 
 
			 			Me:   BS,48 (41 at dday)Him: WS, 56 (49 at dday)Married 27 years, together 30 Dday :  9/9/14 3 week PA		
	 	 			
				    				nervousnelly ( member #58359)		posted at 2:18 AM on Thursday, February 21st, 2019	
			 
	Getting overly upset/frustrated at me for small things. 
 
 
	Being distant. 
 
 
	Not interested in my day. 
 
 
	Took phone with him everywhere. 
 
 
	Constantly texting when it had been light before. 
 
 
	When I would call him while he was traveling he would text me back some reason for not picking up the phone and then we would have a text convo instead. 
 
 
	It was more the anger/frustration with me about small things - sometimes out of the blue - that made the hair on the back of my neck stand up. 
 
 
	That is when I pulled the phone records and it showed thousands of texts and hours of phone calls a month for as far as I could go back at the time. 
 
			 			1. Expect nothing and you won't be disappointed.
2. Learn to love yourself. 
3. Listen to your gut.		
	 	 			
				    				self-rescuer ( member #35059)		posted at 2:46 AM on Thursday, February 21st, 2019	
			 
	When we spoke on the phone in the evenings because he was "working" late, he would not tell me that he loved me.  For 25 years of marriage, without fail, we said we loved each other before hanging up the phone. 
 
 
	It was the first sign. Even all these years later, this memory still packs a little punch. 
 
			 			How are you tending to the the emerging story of your life?
~ Carol Hegedus
		
	 	 			
				    				Bbygrl1079 ( new member #69635)		posted at 3:00 AM on Thursday, February 21st, 2019	
			 
	Phone records show abnormal amounts of texts and phone calls to her number. 
 
 
	Phone on lockdown. We're talking iris scan, pin, and the lock where you trace a shape. 
 
 
	Always behind closed doors. 
 
 
	They were always "just hanging out" 
 
 
	Found notes to her. 
 
 
	She gave him money and cigarettes. 
 
 
	He wouldn't let me clean the hell hole he called a man cave. 
 
 
	Lap top on lockdown. 
 
 
	Always changing passwords. 
 
 
	Picked a fight with me Christmas and left. 
 
 
	Unreachable on New year's 
 
 
	Emails to her. 
 
 
	Found a pic in an old phone of him in her bedroom with her just in a t shirt. 
 
 
	Selfies together that where they stood just a little too close 
 
 
	The list goes on and on 
 
			 	 			
				    				keptmyword ( member #35526)		posted at 3:42 AM on Thursday, February 21st, 2019	
			 
	She very quickly became an intolerable asshole who inexplicably started treating me with nothing but contempt and anger. 
 
 
	From when that began until the divorce was final was the worst period of my life. 
 
 
	No one has treated me worse before that time or since that time. 
 
			 			It has nothing to do with you.
Filed for and proceeded with divorce.		
	 	 			
				    				WhoIsHe ( member #55726)		posted at 5:03 AM on Thursday, February 21st, 2019	
			 
	VERY secretive with his phone 
 
 
	Would go “missing” for 45 minutes or go somewhere and take him 10x as long as it should. 
 
 
	He was not affectionate 
 
 
	He would not initiate sex 
 
 
	He would pick fights 
 
 
	Things just didn’t add up 
 
 
	He was irritable. Unreasonable. Selfish. 
 
 
	I just felt like we weren’t connected anymore. 
 
 
	I felt lonely inside 
 
 
	He really didn’t care about my feelings. Was dismissive of them. 
 
 
	He wouldn’t text back right away or call back. Again, “missing”. 
 
 
	Catch him lying about random things 
 
 
	I’m sure there were more. It’s been a few years. 
 
			 			Me: WS 36
Him: BS 39
No children
D day 9/2016 Fake R. Broke NC. "In love with whore" until he wasn't anymore.  
Divorced 4/2017		
	 	 			
				    				Unbroken78 ( member #68860)		posted at 5:12 AM on Thursday, February 21st, 2019	
			 
	She has logged out of everything that you can possibly logged out on, deleted the browser history, and now only browses in Private mode with no passwords saved...ever. 
 
 
	She deletes all e-mail including sent items and empties deleted items after deleting anything. 
 
 
	She lies about basic things "I don't even remember the last time I was on Fbook"...she was on it that day. 
 
 
	She added two factor authentication to all of her logins and even a random number generator to Fbook...I didn't even know that was a thing. 
 
 
	She then joked about it and how she was doing it "to be safe". 
 
 
	She secretly tries to record me with her phone...and is bad at hiding it "I'm just setting my alarm for tomorrow"...and then launches into a fight, attacking me, saying I threatened her loudly for the world to hear (I didn't) and telling me I am forcing her to have sex (I have no idea what she is talking about) and how I've abused her for years (she believes calling her lies lies is abusive to her mental state).  It is like a bad B movie type of dialog as she tries to get me to say something on tape she could use against me "I know you want to murder me in my sleep and I know you like to force me to have sex with you when I don't want to..."  It is pathetic how obvious this is...and how she is trying to get me to agree on tape. 
 
 
	I actually confronted her on this and she said "I recorded you to play it back to you so you could hear how bad you treat me"... 
 
 
	Except she never told me voluntarily that she was recording it. 
 
 
	She recorded us having sex....without my knowledge or permission. 
 
 
	So....there is that... 
 
 
	Plus the total lack of affection, denial of any kind of human contact, secrecy, odd behavior...and so on. 
 
			 	 			
				    				Loveforlife ( member #64217)		posted at 6:21 AM on Thursday, February 21st, 2019	
			 
	Very distant 
 
 
	Angry all the time 
 
 
	No patience whatsoever with me 
 
 
	Cruel and hurtful to me 
 
 
	No interest whatsoever in sex for a long time 
 
 
	Completely disengaged as a husband 
 
 
	Obsession with phone and iPad 
 
 
	No affection at all, not even a hug or a kiss. 
 
 
	No interest in me as a person .... not even a ‘how was your day?’ 
 
 
	I asked him one night when we were ready to go out somewhere special, how do I look? The response was ‘ok’. 
 
 
	I wanted him to say ..... you look beautiful, my darling. I felt so sad at the time.....worthless.  I didn’t know what was going on at the time. I just felt like he didn’t want me, wasn’t attracted to me. 
 
 
	Compared to her and the others he was carrying on with .... well, I couldn’t possibly compete with that. 
 
 
	Alarm bells rang, big alarm bells, I went searching. Even though I went searching, it never even entered my mind that I would actually find anything. We were childhood sweethearts, married a VERY long time. It was weird that I even went looking because I would never have believed he was doing what he was, if someone told me. 
 
 
	The thing that  finally pushed me ..... after everything that was going on,  he left the house one morning to go to work and didn’t even say goodbye to me, he just left. Just like that! 
 
 
	A gut instinct said ..... go and look. 
 
 
	The evidence was there, all there ..... DD , the end of my world as I knew it. 
 
 
	We are now in R, it’s going well but it’s going to be a long, LONG time before I feel normal again .... maybe I never will. The damage caused is  profound. Trust is gone. Self confidence and self esteem .....shot to pieces. 
 
 
	
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				    				GoldenR ( member #54778)		posted at 7:29 AM on Thursday, February 21st, 2019	
			 
	She never wanted to do ANYTHING with us as a family.  She always had her own thing to do (banging her OM) on the days we were supposed to do stuff with all of us. 
 
			 	 			
				    				 Foolmeonce120 (original poster  new member #69814)		posted at 11:24 AM on Thursday, February 21st, 2019	
			 
	Oh I forgot one. 
 
 
	We call each other pet names (for 20yrs) and he started calling me by my given name. 
 
			 			BS-me 39
WS- him 43
Together for almost 20 years. 
Found out late July 2018 in the process of R. Going well but still hurting. 
		
	 	 			
				    				 Foolmeonce120 (original poster  new member #69814)		posted at 11:25 AM on Thursday, February 21st, 2019	
			 
	Now that I look back it all seems so obvious. How could I be so foolish. 
 
			 			BS-me 39
WS- him 43
Together for almost 20 years. 
Found out late July 2018 in the process of R. Going well but still hurting. 
		
	 	 			
				    				benomania ( member #66308)		posted at 12:49 PM on Thursday, February 21st, 2019	
			 
	Moody 
 
 
	Not reciprocating love / I love you's etc.. 
 
 
	assaulted me while sleeping / said nightmares 
 
 
	hiding phone 
 
 
	taking phone everywhere 
 
 
	protecting phone from me 
 
 
	Taking phone to bed to play "candy crush" 
 
 
	Refused to deleted Instagram after discovery 
 
 
	Ridiculed me on several occasion while I was sick 
 
 
	rejected gifts I gave her 
 
 
	Making sudden stops along road to and from work 
 
 
	Taking lunch rides for gas and stopping god knows where along the way 
 
 
	Accused ME of harassing 2 of the 4 possible AP 
 
 
	Wearing sexy underwear to places after work 
 
 
	Hanging out with well known adulterous friends 
 
 
	Denial 
 
 
	Denial 
 
 
	Deflecting 
 
 
	Insulting 
 
 
	Degrating 
 
 
	Possibly "dating" neighborg 
 
 
	Ushered me out the house whenever she had something planned.  AT the time I though Oh yes! we got to go to XYZ place (say Church).  She was SO eager for me to leave while she stayed home "cooking" 
 
 
	That look on her face after Dday 
 
 
	Depression on her part after Dday 
 
 
	More worried about her Rep along her circle of friends that anything else. 
 
 
	Almost 2 years now and things are better.  Stay for the kids and lack of proof. 
 
 
	She's on a short leash 
 
 
	We are on thin ice 
 
 
	1 more indiscretion and I'm out 
 
 
	fuck this 
 
			 	 			
				    				benomania ( member #66308)		posted at 1:13 PM on Thursday, February 21st, 2019	
			 
	Forgot the following 
 
 
	Told her going to get you xmass present at X place.  Her face goes pale. 
 
 
	I had saved several mystery phone #s who had harassed me months earlier. 
 
 
	I put said phone # into social media and Wala! I got some Men's profiles. 
 
 
	One lived in the town where said X mass present was being purchased by me. 
 
 
	In an attempt to keep me from going to get this present (she thought I was going to confront him) she accused me of going there to cheat on her. 
 
 
	Wasn't until the next day when I showed up with the present that she realized Opps.  I gave too much info? 
 
 
	So I reached to this dudes GF and told her about what could possibly be going on. 
 
 
	IDK what happened to this day with them.  Who knows. 
 
 
	Also, on several occasions she would leave the house to work early on special projects and no say goodbye to anyone. 
 
 
	This was before I made her put a tracker on her phone. 
 
 
	Shortly after DDay.  She said she wanted to go get apples 9 miles away cause they are better! 
 
 
	Turns out that's the area where AP may live. 
 
 
	I didn't allow it. 
 
 
	Now she makes it a habit to visit that area as much as she can.  Knowing I'm tracking her but unable to leave work to see what's going on she stops a lot at a local dairy. 
 
 
	why? 
 
 
	IDK. 
 
 
	Shit like this even 2 years later are the things that are eating me up and I'm sure will take me down. 
 
			 	 
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