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VioletElle (original poster member #70529) posted at 3:01 AM on Friday, August 9th, 2019
Sorry for posting and not responding. I got scared of the backlash right after posting and couldn't read it. I'm not going to be defensive. I get it.
jinkazama ( member #61319) posted at 3:38 PM on Friday, August 9th, 2019
You do not have to be scared
Because we are just faceless people.
And we cant hurt you
This is an anonymous forum
VioletElle (original poster member #70529) posted at 3:48 PM on Friday, August 9th, 2019
It's also an echo chamber for all the worst things I'm already thinking about myself.
jinkazama ( member #61319) posted at 4:01 PM on Friday, August 9th, 2019
Then change yourself
I never posted on your threads because you were so stubborn
Making excuses about your affair.
Refusing to believe that your affair destroyed your husbans self esteem.
So i just kept my mouth shut.
But i knew that you will post about this thing.
Because
It happens all the time .
I have been following these forums for 2 years.
Go read some waywards threads .
Sanibelredfish ( member #56748) posted at 4:38 PM on Friday, August 9th, 2019
VioletElle, the fact that many individuals have independently told you the same things you’ve been thinking should tell you that maybe your thoughts about yourself are correct. I get that those thoughts may not make you feel good about yourself, but that’s not really the point. You are the only one who can change your behavior, so you are also the only person who can change how you feel about yourself. You can continue lying to yourself and others to feel good about yourself, or you can face reality, make changes, and legitimately feel good about yourself because you are being a decent, authentic person. It’s your choice alone.
Zugzwang ( member #39069) posted at 6:57 PM on Friday, August 9th, 2019
^^^Agree. Having pure disgust for yourself is a good thing. It just might be the catalyst to make some real changes. Hiding has gotten you here and hiding will keep you there.
"Nothing in this world is worth having or worth doing unless it means effort, pain, difficulty." Teddy Roosevelt
D-day 9-4-12 Me;WS
ISurvivedSoFar ( member #56915) posted at 7:46 PM on Friday, August 9th, 2019
Bottom line is simple. You are not happy with you. That's why the AP is attractive to you. That's why you need to view yourself through someone else. When you hear bad things you feel you are bad and when you hear good things you feel that you are good.
This is essentially the problem. You aren't a bad person or a good person. You are a person with all of the components everyone else has. We each have the capacity to behave well and to not behave well. You are choosing to behave in a certain way and you need to look at your motivations.
If you don't like the way you feel, look inside rather than outside and find out why. Find out what you need to change in you to feel good. External validations are fleeting and not substantive at the end of the day because they are not predictable. You know who is predictable? You if you want it.
If it doesn't feel good knowing you are getting negative responses to your behaviors don't do the behaviors. The folks on this forum care enough to stop and speak to you because you are a valuable human who is clearly asking for help. Seek out the good and go after it.
It is hard to hear the truth. But it will get easier the moment you acknowledge it (sounds like you are on your way) and decide to change it.
DDay Nov '16
Me: BS, a.k.a. MommaDom, Him: WS
2 DD's: one adult, one teen,1 DS: adult
Surviving means we promise ourselves we will get to the point where we can receive love and give love again.
VioletElle (original poster member #70529) posted at 8:48 PM on Friday, August 9th, 2019
You are not happy with you.
No, I'm really not.
WalkinOnEggshelz ( member #29447) posted at 9:59 PM on Friday, August 9th, 2019
Have you told your husband yet?
Have you told the AP no?
If you keep asking people to give you the benefit of the doubt, they will eventually start to doubt your benefit.
VioletElle (original poster member #70529) posted at 10:05 PM on Friday, August 9th, 2019
I told him I couldn't, but haven't told my husband.
nightmare01 ( member #50938) posted at 10:10 PM on Friday, August 9th, 2019
So, your OM is a priority, but your husband isn't?
BH. DDay 07-19-2001.
Reconciliation is a life long process.
sickofsurviving ( member #52308) posted at 12:37 AM on Saturday, August 10th, 2019
Words matter. Did you say NO? Or did you say you couldn't. Because "I cant", to me, sounds like you're leaving the door open.
BS-me 54
WH 56
Married 2004
4 DDs 35,30,26,25
Sexting affair with his 1st cousin 2007-2008 maybe
D-Day 8-8-15
Married
Iamtrash ( member #71135) posted at 5:15 AM on Saturday, August 10th, 2019
No, no, no, and more no.
I am a week into this. Seeing what I’ve done to my spouse, how I’ve destroyed his life and everything he trusted about me, it’s the worst thing I’ve ever witnessed. Seeing his pain and knowing I caused it, there’s no fixing that. Ever. I can never make this better for him. I can work at changing and proving myself to him, but he will never be the same man. That’s my fault and I have to live with that the rest of my life.
I couldn’t imagine doing this twice. He and I have survived a shit ton of bad stuff and none of it even compares to this. I wouldn’t wish this pain on my worst enemy.
Please, divorce him or block your AP and never return.Have respect for him and don’t put him through this again. I wish I would have either divorced or committed to fixing my marriage. There never should have been a 3rd option.
Zugzwang ( member #39069) posted at 2:08 AM on Sunday, August 11th, 2019
I couldn't
Sounds like you want to but your husband will not let you.
"Nothing in this world is worth having or worth doing unless it means effort, pain, difficulty." Teddy Roosevelt
D-day 9-4-12 Me;WS
VioletElle (original poster member #70529) posted at 2:43 AM on Sunday, August 11th, 2019
I didn't mean it that way. I said no, and for him to not ask again.
I'm not trying to make excuses here but not going to get into semantics either.
I don't feel good at all. I don't know why I started talking to him again and I disgust myself. We had made plans to meet and I couldn't go through with it. So yeah, I failed again.
HellFire ( member #59305) posted at 2:58 AM on Sunday, August 11th, 2019
It would be pretty hard for him to ask you for sex again, if you were no longer in contact with him.
Did you tell him not to contact you anymore?
You're disgusted with yourself? Then what are you going to do now? What steps can you take, to be able to feel,and be, a decent human being again?
[This message edited by HellFire at 8:59 PM, August 10th (Saturday)]
But you are what you did
And I'll forget you, but I'll never forgive
The smallest man who ever lived..
VioletElle (original poster member #70529) posted at 3:28 AM on Sunday, August 11th, 2019
Yes, I told him that we were over for good and that I didn't want to speak to him again.
I don't know where to go from here.
VioletElle (original poster member #70529) posted at 3:28 AM on Sunday, August 11th, 2019
Yes, I told him that we were over for good and that I didn't want to speak to him again.
I don't know where to go from here.
WalkinOnEggshelz ( member #29447) posted at 3:38 AM on Sunday, August 11th, 2019
I don't know where to go from here.
I think the first place to go is to your husband and be honest about what has been happening. He deserves to know.
The second thing is IC, then commit to doing the work to get yourself healthy. You need to figure out why you keep looking outside of yourself and your marriage to feel good.
If you keep asking people to give you the benefit of the doubt, they will eventually start to doubt your benefit.
BraveSirRobin ( member #69242) posted at 3:39 AM on Sunday, August 11th, 2019
I don't feel good at all. I don't know why I started talking to him again and I disgust myself. We had made plans to meet and I couldn't go through with it. So yeah, I failed again.
It's the dopamine rush. You chose this affair because you wanted to feel young, carefree and wild. When it all came crashing down, you ended up even lower than you started, so you're craving another hit.
I never contemplated cheating with OM again after I disclosed my affair, but I also outright refused to go NC. In my selfish, wayward mind, I saw no reason why we couldn't stay friends if we didn't recross the sexual/romantic line. I can't believe I was that insensitive, but I was. I told myself it was concern for OM, but honestly, he had done enough unsavory shit to more than justify me walking away without a backward glance. I didn't admit, even to myself, that I wasn't willing to give up the ego kibble of knowing he was pining for me. He was a source of feelings, just as I was to him.
Your AP wants more sex. Of course he does. You are feeling low and want to go back to the moments where you felt desired and powerful. You managed to compartmentalize your BH once, and your wayward brain is up to its familiar tricks, convincing you that you can do it again. So many of us, fellow waywards, have been there.
Remind me where OBS is in this picture? Because if she exists, the best way to get yourself out of this new hole is to inform your BH of your weakness and have him tell OBS about OM's participation in it. Be brutally honest and show him that your desire to change isn't just words. Burn that shit down before you have a chance to cave again.
Might your BH leave when you tell him? I can't lie. He might. But you can't keep lying, either. If you do, you'll end up back in the sack with OM, and that cannot happen.
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