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layla1234 ( member #68851) posted at 6:37 PM on Wednesday, November 20th, 2019
Side note, can I ask more about the class? Do you take it with your BH? I've been wanting to do one with my WH as most of his anger is directed towards the act of parenting itself and its frustrations. I'm a teacher so I understand children on a completely different level than he does. I'd like him to be educated on how they learn, cope, etc.
Married: 5-15-11
3 kids: ages 6, 3, and baby born in Sept.
D-day of EA with married COW:7-18-18
So much missing info from my story. I'm too exhausted to add it all. Divorce process started.
gmc94 ( member #62810) posted at 6:42 PM on Wednesday, November 20th, 2019
HO - I agree.
What is "mitigating" is the actual work and growth that is done by the WS. THAT'S where the healing occurs (including the ways in which WS' growth can help in the BS' healing).
The simple existence of FOO/childhood trauma is not - in and of itself - "mitigating". And for the BS whose WS does not do the work, there is nothing mitigating about the WS' past trauma.
I have never been a fan of the slippery slope argument. But a dday and coping with a WH has kind of changed my tune when it comes to matters of the mental states. So when I get that icky feeling, I feel somewhat compelled to call it out.
M >25yrs/grown kids
DD1 1994 ONS prostitute
DD2 2018 exGF1 10+yrEA & 10yrPA... + exGF2 EA forever & "made out" 2017
9/18 WH hung himself- died but revived
It's rude to say "I love you" with a mouthful of lies
hikingout ( member #59504) posted at 6:48 PM on Wednesday, November 20th, 2019
No worries, I saw no issue with your post. I just thought I saw a gap there I could bridge. I really didn't disagree with the premise of your post at all. I just felt like I could see where the mitigation occurs.
The hard part over in the WS forum is sometimes we are talking about one aspect of the work. And with FOO, that is kind of the starting foundation of that work. I think it should always come along or shortly after we have our whys. It does partially explain how you come to be the person who had the affair, but I it's just one component of the journey as a whole.
8 years of hard work - WS and BS - Reconciled
LifeDestroyer (original poster member #71163) posted at 6:50 PM on Wednesday, November 20th, 2019
Layla, I'm a teacher too, firsties over here. No, he is not taking it with me. We are separated and NC. I chose to take this class because I needed help with dealing with her behavior. Even as a teacher, it's hard for me. I learned to give choices. He did not like that. It left me being a doormat to her. I googled local ones, and the only one was through Children and Family Services. They have one for each age level. It was interesting because basically what we have learned on children, they taught, and are the same things that BH and I differed on.
Maybe today can be a good day, and if today can be a good day, then maybe tomorrow can be too.
We might be broken and imperfect, but we still have worth and value.
As hard as it is to feel pain, it's much harder to feel nothing.
Pippin ( member #66219) posted at 7:57 PM on Wednesday, November 20th, 2019
LD and Layla, the RULER program for social emotional development is an approach used in many schools (2000? Though some of them buy the curriculum and don’t actually implement) and they just came out with a book aimed at parents (Permission to Feel) that might help your husband. It’s a practical technique for emotional regulation in kids and it works for adults too. It comes out of the Yale center for social emotional dec.
Him: Shadowfax1
Reconciled for 6 years
Dona nobis pacem
Justsomelady ( member #71054) posted at 8:34 PM on Wednesday, November 20th, 2019
Trauma etc. definitely doesn’t mitigate impact on the BS but it does in my opinion mitigate something for the WS, without absolving or excusing or excluding them from accountability.
Be responsible for telling the truth. Not managing other people’s reactions to it - Mel Robbins .
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