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our M repeated my parents' dynamics - anyone else?

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 keet (original poster member #72019) posted at 3:45 AM on Monday, November 18th, 2019

I'm a BS. I went to my first one-on-one session with the MC, before we start doing the real work. It was so damn depressing yet eye opening. I've repeated my mom's marriage dynamics. My dad had no interest in spending time with my mom outside of the house. She wanted to, he didn't, and you can't make someone want to be around you. My mom loved my dad, and accepted him for who he was: a simple, hard working, emotionally unavailable man. Who knows if he was like that in the beginning.

My WH and I had a normal marriage, but after a major loss in our lives (child), he emotionally withdrew. I couldn't really tell the first four years, but after an EA (which I didn't know about), he really changed. He didn't want to spend any time with me outside of our house. He became just like my dad. I reacted just like my mom. I accepted him as emotionally unavailable, and I felt just as sad and rejected as I know she did.

After SEVEN YEARS of living like that, he had an EA which turned into a PA.

So here we are. A perfect stranger pointed out the most obvious thing in the world, and I hate it.

Did anyone else become their parents?

Married 2000; DDay Oct 3, 2019; WH EA 2012; WH month-long PA 2019; 2 kids, now high school and college (neither know).

Resulted in complex PTSD

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layla1234 ( member #68851) posted at 3:57 AM on Monday, November 18th, 2019

Yup. And my WH knew about how my dad cheated on my mom twice. Once with a woman 15 years younger while my mom was pregnant with my brother, and then again some 15 years later with the same woman after they reconnected on FB. My WH knew the pain I had as a child going through that twice and he still fucking did it to me and our children.

Married: 5-15-11
3 kids: ages 6, 3, and baby born in Sept.
D-day of EA with married COW:7-18-18

So much missing info from my story. I'm too exhausted to add it all. Divorce process started.

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 keet (original poster member #72019) posted at 4:01 AM on Monday, November 18th, 2019

layla1234,

Holy fucking CRAP. What a freaking mind-fuck! That just breaks my heart and boils my blood .

Just wow.

Married 2000; DDay Oct 3, 2019; WH EA 2012; WH month-long PA 2019; 2 kids, now high school and college (neither know).

Resulted in complex PTSD

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Skoochnski ( member #71884) posted at 4:33 AM on Monday, November 18th, 2019

I believe my husband is repeating what he saw his father do. His father cheated on his mother and it angered him that his father would treat his mother like that. Yet here we are....🤷‍♀️

Children learn what they live. 😞

ME: 45 WH-47 Dday09-07-19 (our anniversary) Dday #2 11/12/19- Admitted to PA with AP #1 AP#1 2005 former COW- 6 Mo. EA/PA . AP#2- 27 year old former COW- EA, sexting. AP #3-24 year old current COW (he’s her supervisor) EA, sexting, plans to meet for PA

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J707 ( member #63778) posted at 4:38 AM on Monday, November 18th, 2019

Nope, not at all. But I do wonder/feare what my kids future's entails.

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Justgetitoverwith ( member #70459) posted at 5:01 AM on Monday, November 18th, 2019

Nope. My parents met at about the same age as WH and I, have had no infidelity issues (I do believe my mum would have told me, when my issues came out),and are the most loving couple I know, still holding hands out and about at 70.

WH's parents seem very different though. I've never seen them be affectionate towards each other, or hold hands. It's more like they put up with each other, at least in the interaction I have seen. FIL has been totally silent towards me wrt the infidelity and fallout, but MIL has told me it was unecessary and disgusting that I made it public knowledge - yet afaik she has never said anything about WHs behaviour being disgusting or unnecessary, only that perhaps he should have taken a different path. Lame. Even now, after seeing a sarcastic comment I put on SM about WHs micro cheating, she contacted him and was concerned it may cause him problems. Not concerned that he had done it. I find her a totally unsympathetic character, with dubious morals.

So I am pretty sure WH has his parents attitude to infidelity, and unfortunately that affects me and our dynamics. I'm hoping in time I can show him what a loving couple looks and acts like, on the surface we were, but obv behind my back he had a different attitude. I'd much rather have my parent's relationship than my in law's. I hope WH does too.

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cocoplus5nuts ( member #45796) posted at 12:01 PM on Monday, November 18th, 2019

I don't think so.

My mom cheated on my dad. She got pregnant. They divorced when I was 4.

Other than the cheating, I think we are totally different. Still married over 19 years. My fch is very different from both my parents.

We saw a new MC a few times recently. She had us do an exercise where we chose which parent our spouse was most like. Then, we talked about the positive things they shared. Again, except for the cheating, my fch is more like my dad. He did say I'm more like his mom, but still very different from both of his parents.

Me(BW): 1970
WH(caveman): 1970
Married June, 2000
DDay#1 June 8, 2014 EA
DDay#2 12/05/14 confessed to sex before polygraph
Status: just living my life

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sisoon ( Moderator #31240) posted at 12:26 PM on Monday, November 18th, 2019

Nope. I looked almost consciously for someone with whom I could have a very different M than my parents had; and that's how it worked out.

I'm very sorry for the loss of your child, keet.

[This message edited by sisoon at 6:27 AM, November 18th (Monday)]

fBH (me) - on d-day: 66, Married 43, together 45, same sex apDDay - 12/22/2010Recover'd and R'edYou don't have to like your boundaries. You just have to set and enforce them.

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elKAPPYtan ( member #72085) posted at 3:14 PM on Monday, November 18th, 2019

not my parents dynamics, but her's. Her dad gave her mom everything, and had a high paying job at GM, he worked a ton, but gave her everything. She got bored and didn't want to be a stay at home mom, so she got a job as a bartender, had an affair with a drunk.

Patterns don't always repeat themselves, for instance, her mom abandoned her and her sisters to go live a new life with a loser, but patterns do have a way of repeating themselves in many cases.

Me: 36 STBXWW: 36 DDay: Oct 3rd 2019

"You keep it in between the pages of the books you burn so no one gets to read" -Corey MF Taylor

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fooled13years ( member #49028) posted at 3:25 PM on Monday, November 18th, 2019

It only takes one generation to break a chain.

While what you experience is part of you it does not define who you are.

Many things in my childhood were bad but I simply chose not to follow that path so my family would not have to experience the same things.

I am sure that I have done, or will do, some things that will have my children deciding to do those differently when they become spouses and parents.

I removed myself from infidelity and am happy again.

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EllieKMAS ( member #68900) posted at 3:55 PM on Monday, November 18th, 2019

I didn't become them, but my dad is a narcissistic asshat that I have not had a thing to do with in 14 years and it turns out I married a guy just like him. I started seeing that about 7 months into false R and it was all, "What. the. actual. FUCK. is going on here?!?"

Sigh. I certainly thought I was smarter than that but I sure wasn't the first go-round.

"No, it's you mothafucka, here's a list of reasons why." – Iliza Schlesinger

"The love that you lost isn't worth what it cost and in time you'll be glad that it's gone." – Linkin Park

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crazyblindsided ( member #35215) posted at 7:54 PM on Monday, November 18th, 2019

Yes ours did . My dad is a narcissist and my mom 'stayed for the kids' she is still not happy. She cheated multiple times on my dad and they were both M'd when they met.

I married a narcissist and almost 'stayed for the kids.' I did end up having a RA after STBX's 1st A. I believe knowing my mom had A's made it easier for me to make that palatable... wrong

My STBX has cheated throughout the M multiple times. We have fought pretty badly in front of the kids (not anymore though I have managed my anger outbursts at STBX and my coping skills).

My kids saw 2 parents who did not really love each other and that's exactly what I grew up with

[This message edited by crazyblindsided at 1:54 PM, November 18th (Monday)]

fBS/fWS(me):52 Mad-hattered after DD (2008)
XWS:55 Serial Cheater, Diagnosed NPD
DD(22) DS(19)
XWS cheated the entire M spanning 19 years
Discovered D-Days 2006,2008,2012, False R 2014
Separated 9/2019; Divorced 8/2024

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Phoenix1 ( member #38928) posted at 8:15 PM on Monday, November 18th, 2019

Nope. My father was an ass, but a different kind of ass than Xhole. Different dynamics completely.

I'm sorry for your loss.

fBS - Me
Xhole - Multiple LTAs/2 OCs over 20+yrs
Adult Kids
Happily divorced!

You can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending. ~C.S. Lewis~

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Newlease ( member #7767) posted at 9:43 PM on Monday, November 18th, 2019

My father was an alcoholic - the dynamic in my home growing up was either lots of affection or yelling and fighting. I never learned what good loving communication looks like.

With XWH, we never yelled or raised our voices, but when we were in disagreement, you could hear a pin drop in our house - ice out treatment on both sides. And I was ALWAYS the one to give in and apologize even when it was clearly not me. I just couldn't stand the quiet condemnation.

My father cheated on my mother - more than once, but it was before I was born. My older siblings had to deal with that and a lot more than I did.

My XWH didn't drink much and never raised a hand to me, but he ended up cheating too.

I just hope I didn't screw up my sons too badly with the way we modeled a marriage. I thought by avoiding the yelling that we were doing a good job, but it wasn't healthy at all.

NL

Even if you can't control the world around you, you are still the master of your own soul.

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Chicklette ( member #70303) posted at 11:56 AM on Tuesday, November 19th, 2019

This post has really made me think. My initial reaction was “No! Definitely not in my case” but I keep thinking about it. My Mum had affairs all through their marriage. My Dad did nothing, but now that I’m an adult I realise how distressed he must have been for so long. I can barely remember a time when she didn’t have another man around. When I was about 20 she was in a long term relationship with a friend of mine (yep, he’s just a year older than me ) and I asked my Dad why he put up with her behaviour. His answer: “I made my vows before God and I have no intention of breaking them” I said “But she’s broken them over and over” and he replied “That is her problem” For years I thought it was weak of him, but I wonder. My Mum had a terrible temper and would always put her needs and wants before ours. Did he stay because we were safer with him around? Did he stay because she would stop him seeing us if he left? I’ll never know, but when I found out about WH’s sexting ‘relationship’ with POSOW I really wanted to talk to Dad. Sadly he died in 2000, but I’d love to get his view on it. I now see his POV about not breaking my vows, and I’m glad I decided to R.

Anyway, all this to say I’m not sure my M has followed my parents’ as WH didn’t have multiple affairs and emotionally abuse me and the children, but I now feel a connection with my Dad I never felt before.

Me: BS 59 at DDayWH: 61 at DDayMarried: 27 years at DDay DDay: 22 March 2019 I love him and have forgiven him. He’s very contrite.

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elKAPPYtan ( member #72085) posted at 1:01 PM on Tuesday, November 19th, 2019

It remains to be seen, but so far we have repeated her parents dynamics.

Me: 36 STBXWW: 36 DDay: Oct 3rd 2019

"You keep it in between the pages of the books you burn so no one gets to read" -Corey MF Taylor

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TrustedHer ( member #23328) posted at 1:49 PM on Tuesday, November 19th, 2019

Yes, and No.

To the best of my knowledge, my dad was faithful to my mom, and my mom adored my dad. After he died young (at 49; I was 14), she didn't date for 15 years. I modeled my marriage after theirs. No cheating on my part, and even though I was greatly unsatisfied in my marriage, I never seriously considered ending it.

My XWW, on the other hand...

Her mother had a long-term affair with her best friend's husband, and it was an open secret among the 7 children, even causing speculation who their real father was. XWW was embarrassed by this, and communicated her clear resentment to me many times. I thought I was pretty safe from her falling down that way.

I was wrong.

Unlike my father-in-law, who forced MIL underground but never actually ended up stopping MIL's affair, I eventually divorced.

Apparently XWW expected me to just put up with it and stay married, like her father did. She was surprised.

Take care of yourself. There's a great future out there. It won't come to you; you have to go to it.

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cancuncrushed ( member #28156) posted at 2:53 PM on Tuesday, November 19th, 2019

Exactly. I was even aware of this pattern as early as 15. I watched I read. I made sure my life was nothing like theirs.

I made a list of qualities. I kept to it. My Xwh was Christian. Raised in faith based family. Good people. For generations. College educated. Goals. He seemed to love me. We had same interests. Then years later I learn he is chronic alcoholic. Serial cheater and Npd.

I made the effort. xwh was determined to pull this off. And he did. Now I see how much I am my mother. Why she was like she was. How she reacted. Her depression. She was a zombie. And had walls up My dad was chronic alcoholic.

I hate this. I hate it was deliberate. I think when he was very young , he believed this is what cool guys do.

This lesson has been very obvious to me lately. How all of this affected my relationship with my mom. She was abusive She was alcoholic. It was a bad time. Now I see so many ways she gave up. Gave in. Was broken. Not much would have been different. I see her as human. I’ve let a lot of stuff go.

How crazy is it that I was aware. I educated myself. I protected myself. And it happened. Even years later. I’ve been told you can pick this person with the same potential issues in under 4 seconds. It’s why you are attracted.

Apparently I’m attracted to alcoholic serial cheaters who are abusive and mentally ill

I can only go up from here.

The last company party Xwh and I attended. I watched him. He looked like my dad. He acted like my dad. Dressed like my dad. And he was drunk. He relapsed. I didn’t know. I was stunned at how I literally married my dad.

[This message edited by cancuncrushed at 9:16 AM, November 19th (Tuesday)]

a trigger yesterday

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 keet (original poster member #72019) posted at 9:56 PM on Tuesday, November 19th, 2019

Wow.

Married 2000; DDay Oct 3, 2019; WH EA 2012; WH month-long PA 2019; 2 kids, now high school and college (neither know).

Resulted in complex PTSD

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 keet (original poster member #72019) posted at 9:56 PM on Tuesday, November 19th, 2019

Wow.

Wow to it all.

[This message edited by keet at 3:56 PM, November 19th (Tuesday)]

Married 2000; DDay Oct 3, 2019; WH EA 2012; WH month-long PA 2019; 2 kids, now high school and college (neither know).

Resulted in complex PTSD

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