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PricklePatch ( member #34041) posted at 11:05 AM on Friday, October 2nd, 2020

HFSSC,

Your in my prayers.

BS Fwh

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HFSSC ( member #33338) posted at 1:27 PM on Friday, October 2nd, 2020

Thank you all. And I continue to pray for all of us.

Me, 56
Him, 48 (JMSSC)
Married 26 years. Reconciled.

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tushnurse ( member #21101) posted at 1:32 PM on Friday, October 2nd, 2020

((((HF))))

Stay strong. MAke sure you are taking Vitamin D, Vitamin C or EmergenC. Hopefully this time around you have more antibodies and you will stay well.

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 thebighurt (original poster member #34722) posted at 4:06 PM on Friday, October 2nd, 2020

HFSSC, I'm glad you brought your knowledge and experience here and hope the chance to safely vent brought some relief to you. I have thought of you (and everyone dealing with patient care) often, especially knowing where you work and how quickly things go through nursing homes. That is one of the places I worked during my career, although not as a nurse or related to resident care. It became disheartening to come in and see the slips with the names of those hospitalized during a "regular" flu season where a couple didn't survive and during which I got it myself and was very sick with it for over a week.

There have been a low number of cases around my area, thankfully, and the nursing home where I worked is among a few around that have had NO cases. It has become a place where people needing rehab to go home are sent to do it safely.

Those who know me well know that I am quite a "news junkie" and particularly paying attention to things related to this and staying safe. I found a news story of a young, presumably healthy OB/GYN resident doctor in Houston who got it. The stories followed her illness and she sadly succumbed even after a valiant attempt with an EKMO machine. Such a loss to untold many people she may have helped or saved.

Your experience with the disease yourself is a cautionary tale. I have told people that I *know of* a person who has had COVID twice and have been pooh-poohed by some for thinking it didn't provide immunity to have it; couldn't happen. It is very alarming that people would have "COVID parties" to "get it over with".

The part of my post that you quote was particularly and carefully worded because of what you said. My news junkieness has already brought some of those cases to mind. That is why I responded the ways I did to BearlyBreathing and PricklePatch in a post on this thread.

That is also why I do worry about the neighbor's otherwise healthy DGD who still yesterday had light cold/flu-like symptoms only and will be past the isolation period at the end of tomorrow. No one can tell her that she will have no lasting effects.

And, to your point about this, a man who was declared over it and released from the hospital was recuperating at home suddenly died from an undetected blood clot originating in his lung. It had been noted, again as a news junkie, that a doctor recognized some affected patients had many near microscopic blood clots in the lungs and began treating some with TPA. This reportedly wonderful family and community-active man in his 50s had no other co-morbidities, just passed suddenly after being "cured" sort-of.

And yet so many, especially in a rural area like here where cases are few and people are not slapped in the face with people around them who get sick and maybe die, continue to discount the need to protect themselves and others. They resent the measures businesses are taking to do that as unnecessary instead of realizing those exact things may be much of WHY they are not experiencing it here. I have stayed off FB for exactly that reason. One FB friend I know to have very serious conditions (MULTIPLE serious conditions including a deadly cancer!) posts that line and I want to slap her!

I could go on and on. I'm sorry this became such a rant. I guess it's pent-up frustration from last night when I wanted to respond to this but my internet went out while I was up. My brain had all night to stew on it. Anyway, I hope everyone we know follows the logical protocols and PLEASE stay SAFE!!

[This message edited by thebighurt at 10:08 AM, October 2nd (Friday)]

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 thebighurt (original poster member #34722) posted at 12:32 AM on Monday, October 5th, 2020

OMG!! One more has it but likely exposed many more at a family event! Obviously not part of the family that were taking the safe measures.

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 thebighurt (original poster member #34722) posted at 2:36 AM on Tuesday, October 6th, 2020

Now there are several from the event out of work in quarantine. But very hard to understand why the young children were told to go to school! Cannot understand why if their parents are in quarantine?

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number4 ( member #62204) posted at 4:24 AM on Tuesday, October 6th, 2020

@thebighurt - trying to keep up with the posts in this thread. Did I miss some event where there was a known exposure?

As far as being a news junkie goes; my undergraduate degree was in journalism. I seesaw back and forth between watching it non-stop, to not being able to turn it on for days. I probably watch more than is healthy for my sanity. The last few days have been extraordinarily nerve-wracking, watching all the news develop. The current outbreak seems to have originated from the Rose Garden event, or a super spreader event. But who was patient 0?? I keep telling myself that, if I stay away from group gatherings, other than the necessary errands I have to run, then I'll be OK.

I participate in a weekly meditation group on Monday mornings with a group I used to meditate with in person when we lived in the Chicago area; since they are now meeting virtually, I have been able to rejoin them. It is a loving-kindness meditation, based on a lot of Buddhist teachings of meditation. We had an interesting discussion this morning about karma, and definitely in the context of people ignoring CDC guidelines and getting COVID. I guess I've become aware of how I've felt in the last few days and don't like that I've somewhat smirked inside, and thought, "Karma." And then immediately beat myself up for having that thought. I guess I have a hard time believing in karma as a punishment, but I can accept to some level that karma is just a consequence of choices we make. A lot of people (and not just politicians) are choosing to ignore guidelines and are getting sick. And I guess I don't feel sorry for them.

This all being said, I want to have nothing to do with wishing ANYONE getting sick, even if it's the people I so despise for ignoring guidelines. Because every person that gets sick, prolongs the chance for us to ever get back to a sense of normalcy, whether that person is a mask-wearer/socially-distancer, or not. Every fucking case keeps us in this madness for that much longer. So, I don't want anyone to get sick, but if they do, yea, I might say karma to myself.

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 thebighurt (original poster member #34722) posted at 5:23 AM on Tuesday, October 6th, 2020

Hi to a fellow news junkie, Number4. I guess I didn't make it clear in my OMG post above that another of SIL's family was tested positive and stupidly got a whole family group to do something together even having symptoms. This is obviously not a part of the immediate family of the one who passed from it and wouldn't have gotten it from him. I'm so angry that they did that knowing BIL died and others may now too. SIL and H made it clear that all of them need to stay away.

Lately my usual break from the news is the little bit of time in my car. I tune the radio to music only. And sometimes turn off everything in the house and enjoy quiet. Your online Buddhist based group sounds wonderful. I've often thought that might be where I could make a spiritual home.

I have to say I agree 100% with your assessment of the superspreading event in the news. And I have to plead guilty of having the same thoughts of Karma!

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number4 ( member #62204) posted at 5:58 AM on Tuesday, October 6th, 2020

OK... now it's clear - another event. What the hell were they thinking of having an event when a known acquaintance has died? I don't get it.

Lately my usual break from the news is the little bit of time in my car. I tune the radio to music only.

Wish I could say the same. I have Sirius XM in my car, and it has a pre-set to CNN, although it's an easy 1-2 channels away from Fox and MSNBC. I can literally walk out my front door with the TV on, get in my car, start it up, and miss maybe 20 seconds of audio. Are you also a Weather Channel junkie when storms are coming through? Even though I live in CA now, I grew up on the Texas coast, and lived in the Midwest for several decades with all its winter storms and warm-weather tornadoes.

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 thebighurt (original poster member #34722) posted at 5:24 PM on Tuesday, October 6th, 2020

What the hell were they thinking of having an event when a known acquaintance has died? I don't get it.

I don't either, #4, but this person isn't known for having the best of judgement, sadly. This is a person in the family only by M, but whose children and grandchildren are closely related to SIL. Now that whole faction of the family has been *at least* closely exposed to the virus. Likely more influenced by FOO who were also there. Will have to wait to see, as they all got together the whole weekend! And adults now told to quatantine.

I tend to have the radio on in the house during the day so I can move around doing things without having to look and pay more attention. The Weather Channel usually only comes into it with a major event or when watching storms/fires that affect people or areas I know like when DS was in the bushfires. (Watching for that again now.....) But also read newspapers I trust online in the areas where I am concerned and have my "smart speaker" play stations or individual shows I know in those areas to stay informed. I have a friend here who grew up in Galveston and often says and posts things about that area.

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Adlham ( member #53358) posted at 3:53 AM on Wednesday, October 7th, 2020

Thebighurt- I live in a very rural area & we sat at 5 cases for weeks.

And then a church decided that the rules didn't apply to them & in abput a week, we went to 334 cases.

People here started taking it a lot more seriously.

And I've turned into a raging bitch. We have 446 cases now. I have told store managers that if they aren't going to say something, I will & enjoy the big fat fine when I turn you in.

So done with being nice. I hate wearing masks, too. But I care about the health of my family, friends, & community a whole lot more than the minor inconvenience of a mask. At least we don't have to wear the whole isolation get-up. Talk abput a sweaty mess!

Anyways, your comment about rural folk really stood out for me because my community got very complacent and it has been ugly.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the biggest reason ive turned into a raging bitch is because ive lost 2 people to covid. I was not close to either one, but am close with their family members.

There is NO need to have that “one last conversation” with a toxic individual in your life.” The closure will come when you look deeper inside yourself. It’s not your job to fix someone when they are unwilling to fix themselves.

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 thebighurt (original poster member #34722) posted at 4:41 AM on Wednesday, October 7th, 2020

Adlham, I'm so sorry you have lost people you knew to COVID. It is a horrible way to go and most have been forced to die without loved ones present. Like has been said, even those who recover may have lasting health issues that diminish their quality of life.

It does seem that the rural areas that do not experience many cases become complacent. Yours is not the first area I have heard of where a church was the source of a large number of cases. Maybe they mistakenly feel that their faith protects them?

Another site where I read and infrequently post made my blood boil last week so I wrote a long post in response to a woman who falsely claimed she and MANY others like her were told they did NOT need to wear masks because they had tested positive and recovered, so could not infect anyone or catch it again themselves!!! I surprised myself that I was able to post a coherent, yet respectful post full of accurate, verifiable facts including a quote from a government proclamation earlier that day. So proud!

I think there are many around who need a comeuppance from a raging bitch. You do your community a huge favor!

[This message edited by thebighurt at 10:42 PM, October 6th (Tuesday)]

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Adlham ( member #53358) posted at 6:03 AM on Wednesday, October 7th, 2020

I do try to be nice about it but it's really hard to come across as polite when you're yelling lol

I lost my temper. But I'm not ashamed. I am just so frustrated when I see people not wearing a mask because we are still rising in cases.

In other news, one of the nursing homes I worked at has 54 active cases.

It's an 80 bed facility. I am heartbroken. There are a lot of long term residents who are still there.

2020 can eff right off now.

There is NO need to have that “one last conversation” with a toxic individual in your life.” The closure will come when you look deeper inside yourself. It’s not your job to fix someone when they are unwilling to fix themselves.

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pureheartkit ( member #62345) posted at 3:03 AM on Wednesday, October 14th, 2020

There is a beautiful egg tempera altarpiece at a museum one hour from me. I love that painting but one time I was the only person in the room and I got to thinking where it came from and what was going on then. How many people must have looked through their tears at that work of art while the black death killed half of Europe.

I hate these diseases. We have to fight them with everything we've got. Like were fighting a world war. Good people are being lost and many more injured. We can't get comfortable, to beat this takes tenacity. The winter will bring people together indoors. We must be extra careful now.

Thank you everyone for your wisdom and healing.

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