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Marz ( member #60895) posted at 9:34 PM on Thursday, October 24th, 2019
I'm stopping by the parish on the way home to talk to my priest. He doesn't know about all these men. It is going to be interesting to see what he has to say.
Don't be surprised at what you get from what I've seen a lot of religious leaders don't know much about effectively handling infidelity.
Mene ( member #64377) posted at 9:42 PM on Thursday, October 24th, 2019
Just fucking horrific.
I don’t know what more to add. The details would have been excruciating for you when you first read them. There’s no coming back from that level of infidelity.
The quicker you leave her, the better. You’re still young. Find a woman that will appreciate the hard worker you are and loyal man. I’m sorry you’re going through this horrendous situation.
Not sure how you handle the fallout from her family. But they need to have those details, too. They’ll blame you for the marriage breakup, no doubt, while they will concurrently go to town on her too. They will be embarrassed for themselves but your wife will have to handle that, not you.
Walk with your head held high. I completely understand your desire to seek revenge on the multiple OM. Like you, I know how to handle myself, and there would be no more satisfying thing than sending them to the ground with a punch. Don’t do it as it is not worth the jail time. The best way to handle them is to tell their respective wives or partners.
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Life wasn’t meant to be fair...
self-rescuer ( member #35059) posted at 9:43 PM on Thursday, October 24th, 2019
You have been so strong and so focused and have accomplished so much in such a short amount of time.
All I want to contribute is a reminder that you are just a little more then a month out from d-day. As many here will attest - at that point in the process most of us were still curled up in the fetal position on the bathroom floor or sitting in our cars sobbing uncontrollably in our office parking lots or projectile vomiting. This shit is brutal. It is trauma served by our most beloved. It is agony sprinkled with confusion and the deepest sorrow.
Please be merciful with yourself during this time. Please know that you are entitled to the grief and pain that you feel. Declare that you are a mess unapologetically. You are deserving of great kindness and support now. You are one of the most focused and deliberate posters I have ever read. Just remember to be gentle with yourself.
You're doing so well and great peace and joy await on the other side.
How are you tending to the the emerging story of your life?
~ Carol Hegedus
rugswept ( member #48084) posted at 9:45 PM on Thursday, October 24th, 2019
West...
You've got it all right.
This is Game, Set, Match.... Over.
The rest of the tournament is hereby cancelled.
Enough.
This WW of yours needs you to support her so she can go out and bang her OM of choice, of the month.
This whole thing is disgusting.
Please make sure your daughters fully understand that these were extreme infidelities over a long period of time. You don't want to leave them with the idea that this was some kind of one off.
Good Luck.
And yes, the way you are handling this should become a case example in how to deal with serial cheaters.
R'd (rug swept everything) decades ago.
I'm big on R. Very happy marriage but can never forget.
Westway (original poster member #71747) posted at 10:15 PM on Thursday, October 24th, 2019
Ha! Her older brother just texted me "What the hell is going on between you and M_____ bro?"
Me: 52;
XWW: 50 y.o. serial cheater
Married 22 years, Together 24
2 Daughters: aged 16 and 20
DDay: 9/20/19
Divorced 12/03/20.
Sanibelredfish ( member #56748) posted at 10:37 PM on Thursday, October 24th, 2019
I think you should reply at a high level (she fucked up), and let him know you are having a family meeting with your girls this weekend to discuss it. They (la famiglia) will be looped in as the situation unfolds. Don’t let her spin this to them without you setting a stake in the ground to keep her from going off the rails. Just my two cents.
Marz ( member #60895) posted at 10:52 PM on Thursday, October 24th, 2019
"I don't like her boyfriends". is good
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KatyaCA ( member #41528) posted at 11:15 PM on Thursday, October 24th, 2019
It seems she needed a beard and you ticked all the right boxes. She married you under false pretenses. I am so sorry she made you live under her lie because she didn't have the courage to stand up and live her life authentically.
I know that it is hard this early on. You have received a lot of great advice and despite how it may feel you are doing a fantastic job of handling all this so far.
I was a child of a cheater. Two cheaters actually. The truth is how your children know they can trust and believe in you. Please be the parent they can trust and believe in. They need one parent with honor, integrity and honesty. That doesn't mean you have to give them all the gory details but letting them know their mother has been cheating for years with multiple partners and doesn't love you so you need to divorce is the best gift you can give them in all this sordid mess.
You should tell the kids why you are divorcing, not her. She can't be trusted to be honest. She's all about damage control and image management. She will approach the telling with those two things in mind. Being honest with them in an age appropriate way is what they need. She can't give them what they need, to her, her needs are paramount at the expense of all of you.
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faithfulman ( member #66002) posted at 11:19 PM on Thursday, October 24th, 2019
Posted by Westway:
Ha! Her older brother just texted me "What the hell is going on between you and M_____ bro?"
"Private business"
or
"more like what's going on with her"
or
"You mean what's going on with her and 12 ..."
or
Probably better not to reply yet
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KatyaCA ( member #41528) posted at 11:21 PM on Thursday, October 24th, 2019
Ha! Her older brother just texted me "What the hell is going on between you and M_____ bro?"
I'd text him back after you've told the kids and tell him that the kids had to be told first and then lay out the high level truth to him as well.
I found out she's been cheating on me for years. We are getting a divorce. full stop
Westway (original poster member #71747) posted at 11:48 PM on Thursday, October 24th, 2019
I just texted back that we are going through some heavy stuff right now and that I would get back with him Monday. He's the oldest kid. He and my WW are not close, but because he will one day take over as Pater Familia after the old man dies, he thinks he needs to act like he gives a shit.
[This message edited by Westway at 5:49 PM, October 24th (Thursday)]
Me: 52;
XWW: 50 y.o. serial cheater
Married 22 years, Together 24
2 Daughters: aged 16 and 20
DDay: 9/20/19
Divorced 12/03/20.
KingofNothing ( member #71775) posted at 1:08 AM on Friday, October 25th, 2019
She agreed halfheartedly, then asked if we could at least try to R. She said she still loves me more than anyone else and that the other men were just for sex
A lot of people can get mad by symbiosis reading these stories, remembering what they have gone through in their own lives. For me it’s that phrase... “ it was just sex”. It’s like tossing every intimate moment you ever had with your spouse in the trash. It was never just sex for me.
Yes, I’ve had a finger reset. Old rugby 🏉 player here.
Rex Nihilo, the King of Nothing
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“If you’re going through hell, keep going. Just please stop screaming, it’s not good for morale.”
— Winston Churchill
BS 3 DDays/Attempted R, it failed. In a better place
20yrsagoBS ( member #55272) posted at 4:19 AM on Friday, October 25th, 2019
Our priests simply told me Adultery is an acceptable reason to divorce- per the Catholic Church. He said not consummating the marriage, or adultery, were the only two reasons the church condones divorce for
West Way? You’re covered, RUN!
Be free of this crap!
BW, 54 WH 53 When you lie down with dogs, you wake up with fleas
AFL1000 ( member #66483) posted at 9:16 AM on Friday, October 25th, 2019
You're doing great Westway. I am so very impressed with the way you are handling this shitstorm.
If your STBXW does not do the right thing in informing your girls that it's her long-term cheating lifestyle that has forced you to end the marriage, I would have the detailed summary you gave us on p10 of your thread from 24 October (suitably edited to remove any references to SI and any other facts you want to keep under raps) ready for you can hand her with the comment "I know everything and I have all the evidence to support this document". Let her read it but make sure she doesn't get to keep it! This will really rock her world big time.
Strength to you Westway.
Buffer ( member #71664) posted at 10:46 AM on Friday, October 25th, 2019
rugswept ( member #48084) posted at 1:03 PM on Friday, October 25th, 2019
Warning: NEVER post anything literal from SI.
For example... google ... "34 text messages to OM#2"
"34 text messages to OM#2" was from page 10 of west's post
It will bring you DIRECTLY to this entire thread.
R'd (rug swept everything) decades ago.
I'm big on R. Very happy marriage but can never forget.
Trdd ( member #65989) posted at 1:31 PM on Friday, October 25th, 2019
I was thinking similarly to AFL1000. My thoughts were more along the lines of what is the downside to letting WW know ahead of time that you know about 10 posom and have evidence to prove it? Or does she already know you know the depth of her betrayal?
The upside is it would likely shape her behavior favorably when you ask for something from her... like telling the kids. I suppose it could send her more into attack mode as a downside? But I would think she would realize you have the winning hand. Does your lawyer see a reason to not reveal at least some of your knowledge at this point?
People here often say don't reveal your sources or information. But there is a time and place to use what you have to make the D process easier with less resistance. This step of telling the kids may be that moment.
DoinBettr ( member #71209) posted at 3:21 PM on Friday, October 25th, 2019
he thinks he needs to act like he gives a shit.
I will say, don't underestimate the ability for people to understand you are hurt. It will help you if you stay open to outside people helping you. Especially if you go the pain route not the anger route. Right now you are raw emotion. That is why I suggested finding a friend. You need it.
As far as the finger. Yeah, you have heard me pipe in. Re-setting isn't that bad. Breath in the fire and let it wash over you.
Everyone here recommends working out because the pain and exhaustion really helps slow the anger. Keep that up.
You are doing ok. Good luck with the girls. Have a plan encase things go crappy.
Westway (original poster member #71747) posted at 8:19 PM on Friday, October 25th, 2019
Our priests simply told me Adultery is an acceptable reason to divorce- per the Catholic Church. He said not consummating the marriage, or adultery, were the only two reasons the church condones divorce for
West Way? You’re covered, RUN!
Be free of this crap!
My priest was pretty horrified when I shared what my WW had done. He's getting me the paperwork to begin the annulment process. The legal divorce has to go through first. Then the legal divorce decree is submitted along with the other paperwork and a tribunal is scheduled. That's about all I know now.
Me: 52;
XWW: 50 y.o. serial cheater
Married 22 years, Together 24
2 Daughters: aged 16 and 20
DDay: 9/20/19
Divorced 12/03/20.
Marz ( member #60895) posted at 8:27 PM on Friday, October 25th, 2019
His wayward knows she cheated. She's not stupid and knows he's got the goods on her. Or at least some.
I wouldn't waste my time on confronting unless the mediation got ugly.
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