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betrayedandnumb ( member #24903) posted at 4:34 PM on Wednesday, August 25th, 2010

TCMM, I'm glad to see you back and I'm sorry you're dealing with so much crap. Life is truly not fair, and your situation certainly is beyond unfair! I wish I had some advice, but I'm new to this and am trying to figure my way out of this mess.

But I would like to send you a {{{HUG}} because it sounds very much like you could use one! I hope your day improves!!!

BW- me
FWH-him
3/28/09 The day he started skiing down the slippery slope
4/26/09 The day it turned PA
Dday #1 7/13/09, #2 7/16/09, #3 10/23/09, Major setback- 8/13/10
In R

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Cabrona ( member #9596) posted at 4:58 PM on Wednesday, August 25th, 2010

I like when someone keeps posting on one thread, that way I can click on their profile, and then click on check latest posts so that all their posts in that thread are highlighted, making it easy to read all their responses, that way I don't ask questions that have already been answered.

"The truth is, everybody is going to hurt you... you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for." —Bob Marley

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k94ever ( member #11176) posted at 8:56 PM on Wednesday, August 25th, 2010

Dear TCMM,

During the bad times I kept telling myself:

"I can endure this. It will pass."

Worked wonders............

{{{hugs}}}}

k9

BS:61
WS: 53
Betrayed: 24 years
Affairs: 15 (2 lasted 3 months. Rest were ONS)
WS died: 16 May 2011
Do not stay in your hurt forever. Choose to move out of it.

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wonderingbull ( member #14833) posted at 9:17 PM on Wednesday, August 25th, 2010

Keep fighting the good fight my man... You may not believe it now but there will be a time when the fighting is over and although you sit tired and bloody you'll be able to pat yourself on the back and say...

I made it... I really did...

WB

The secret of life is enjoying the passage of time...

James Taylor

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Threnody ( member #1558) posted at 9:46 PM on Wednesday, August 25th, 2010

TCMM, I was wondering how you're handling back-to-school time. Can you get a counselor through the school to visit with your kids once a week or so just to see if they're needing to talk to a non-parental adult? Sometimes just having that other adult around to listen can make things easier on kids. Many schools offer this as a free service.

Sending hugs for you and the Zoo Crew.

“If you don't like my opinion of you, you can always improve.” ~ Ashleigh Brilliant
"Great love requires determination." ~ tryingtwo
"Don't try to win over the haters, you're not the jackass whisperer." ~ Brene Brown

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Ciao_Bella ( member #9952) posted at 3:00 AM on Thursday, August 26th, 2010

TCMM, Good for you that you found some medication to help you through this very tough time. Just keep doing whatever you need to do take care of yourself.

Why your WW has to rub the OM in your face is beyond comprehension. I had that happen to me as well. It's cruel and unnecessary, and speaks volumes about her character, or lack thereof.

Oh, and I don't agree with the poster who said you should start a new thread....this is easier to keep track of you and how you're doing.

Ciao

Me (BS)Divorced from WS. He was diagnosed NPD by two Psychologists. He continued his affair with married OW for 13 years until he died in Oct 2011.

Two sons; 29 & 27 years old; I'm remarried

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 tulipcitymadman (original poster member #28660) posted at 3:37 AM on Thursday, August 26th, 2010

[This message edited by tulipcitymadman at 8:37 PM, October 20th (Wednesday)]

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lieshurt ( member #14003) posted at 3:04 PM on Thursday, August 26th, 2010

so I will stop being difficult, and perhaps make a new thread.

TCMM, you aren't being difficult. If you want to keep posting on this thread, then by all means do so. Please don't focus on what that one person said. Focus on all of the support others are giving you. You've got a lot of people who care about you here.

(((tcmm)))

No one changes unless they want to. Not if you beg them. Not if you shame them. Not if you use reason, emotion, or tough love. There is only one thing that makes someone change: their own realization that they need to.

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sherman ( member #27018) posted at 3:48 PM on Thursday, August 26th, 2010

do-over may have thought that a thread gets cut off at 20 pages. I think it's actually 999 posts--anyway, it's far enough down the line that you don't need to worry about it today!

17 years out from Dday, but sometimes I still feel stuck in the Wayback Machine.

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latebloomer45 ( member #18021) posted at 5:16 PM on Thursday, August 26th, 2010

Perhaps I could find just a sliver of humor in this shit storm. Maybe I can come out on the other end clean showered and shaved, feeling just like I did 15 years ago going to a Cubs game with a sense that today things will be good, today things will be alright

TCMM, I wish you the best. I gotta say I thought your combining hope, optimism, and the Cubs WAS your sliver of humor.

As we say around here-I'd rather watch the Cubs lose than the Sox win!

Me: BS 56
Him: FWS 58
Married 32 years
Son-26 Daughter (Who Came out as trans, so now Son)-23,
D-Day #1 12/11/2007
D-Day #2 5/23/2008 fucking trickle truth!
Whatever Threnody said, I concur.

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wonderingbull ( member #14833) posted at 5:34 PM on Thursday, August 26th, 2010

TCMM~

I caught the optimism and the Cubs comment too.... Glad to see you're keeping a sense of humor about you!

I remember when my life went Jerry Springerish and I did sit down from time to time and laugh my ass off at how crazy making this shit can get...

WB

The secret of life is enjoying the passage of time...

James Taylor

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Will Not Be Brok ( member #21553) posted at 7:30 PM on Thursday, August 26th, 2010

((TCMM)) Is there any way your son could become an emancipated minor? Then he could choose where he lives. Do you belong to a church or other religous organization(it sucks to have to be so PC nowadays I sound so FORMAL) If you are-reach out to them. If not, maybe you could go to whatever faith you feel speaks to you and get some direction and hope there. Hope is everything! Some good books are by Joel Osteen and Joyce Meyers. They have helped me get through the dark days( & nights) And I don't know where I would be without the people at my church. They have been such a support system for me and the kids. Sending light & love- and keep posting!

Faith is the bird that feels the light and sings while the dawn is still dark.

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k94ever ( member #11176) posted at 7:41 PM on Thursday, August 26th, 2010

Hmmm.....you know a thread is starting to degenerate when the "Cubbie" jokes start coming around.

WS is a die-hard Cubbie fan. One of his dreams is to catch a fly ball in the outfield in front of the Big Green Monster.

Me....I'm convinced the club owners are using the team to launder dirty money or something........

TCMM...your life will change, but good days will come again.

{{{hugs}}}

k9

BS:61
WS: 53
Betrayed: 24 years
Affairs: 15 (2 lasted 3 months. Rest were ONS)
WS died: 16 May 2011
Do not stay in your hurt forever. Choose to move out of it.

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SurvivingEA ( member #26872) posted at 8:20 PM on Thursday, August 26th, 2010

It is also pissing me off that our church is subsidizing her therapy so that she can feel better about herself and rationalize her adultery.

I'm curious, does the church know they are subsidizing therapy sessions for an unremorseful adulteress? Do they know she has cut herself off from her family and friends? Do they know she would cut them off in a second if they cut off her funds and disagreed with her decision?

And if they do know all of this, what is their justification for providing the assistance to someone so vehemently against what they believe?

If they are aware, the utter hypocrisy just astounds me.

Me: BS
Her: FWW

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 tulipcitymadman (original poster member #28660) posted at 4:48 PM on Friday, August 27th, 2010

[This message edited by tulipcitymadman at 8:38 PM, October 20th (Wednesday)]

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bluelady ( member #11061) posted at 4:55 PM on Friday, August 27th, 2010

I think you need to 180 her ass.

Me (BS): 35

Divorced

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rainagain ( member #14917) posted at 5:02 PM on Friday, August 27th, 2010

TCMM, I'm so glad you're back here and so sorry things are still carrying on.

You know evidence like missing printer cartridges compared to evidence that the children's mother is leaving for days on end with her boyfriend...well it's pretty lopsided.

What about summarizing accounts and bills, income in and income out on one document, send to your L and ask him/her to send a copy to her L. Proof that you are acknowledging the financial situation and proof that she has no way to claim that she doesn't know what is going on.

No one is going to fault you for paying one bill before another. Have you separated credit cards yet or do you have sep. cards? It could get sticky there. My X would pay his off with joint funds and run up mine (he was a second user on it, but I held it).

Smart to send things to work. As long as you give her copies of everything joint, why would that be a problem to anyone but her? Too bad for her.

Now, faith is being sure of what you hope for and certain of what you cannot see. Heb 11:11 done been through the pain and the sorrow the struggle is nothing but love- Marino Me: Divorced

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FaithFool ( member #20150) posted at 5:09 PM on Friday, August 27th, 2010

TCMM, sad to see that the bullshit continues to pile higher.

Can you set up online billing for your shared accounts?

That way both of you could see them.

I like that idea of sending a summary to the lawyers.

I'm sorry you're having to deal with this.

Big hugs.

DDay: June 15, 2008
Mistakenly married Mr. Superfreak
20 years of OWs, WTF?
Divorced Dec 26, 2011
"Life is a shipwreck, but we must not forget
to sing in the lifeboats". -- Voltaire

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 tulipcitymadman (original poster member #28660) posted at 6:12 PM on Friday, August 27th, 2010

[This message edited by tulipcitymadman at 8:37 PM, October 20th (Wednesday)]

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feelinghurt10 ( member #28600) posted at 6:55 PM on Friday, August 27th, 2010

Hang in there TCMM

(((HUGS)))

The bullshit never ends, does it?

Me- BS-51. Dday #1 4/3/2010 ; Officially divorced - 10/26/2012"No matter what happens, or how bad it seems today, life does go on, and it will be better tomorrow." ~Maya Angelou

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