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yearsofpain25 ( member #42012) posted at 4:59 AM on Sunday, January 12th, 2014
Any sex act is still sex and I agree that one is more intimate than others. Did this incident take place in your house? Was there any chance of your son walking in on this scene no matter how remote? If so I bet your WH was clearly not thinking of that. Something you may want to bring up later if that's the case.
Do you have thoughts on how you want to move forward in the coming week? Maybe make yourself a checklist to concentrate on? Schedule STD test. Schedule independent counseling session. Find a divorce lawyer (not that you have to do anything yet but will send a message that you are serious). Get list of questions together that you want answered about OW. Block email, texts from friend and her husband. Get list of questions together for friend and her husband (was that really their first time - trust is gone from all offending parties here I assume). How do you want to handle immediate and short term living conditions? Etc etc etc. will give you something to focus on other than the pain.
Focus on what you want to do. Not what any of the offending parties want you to do. And most of all take care of yourself so you can take care of your kids.
"I remind myself of this. I am a survivor. I have taken all this world has dished out and am still here. So there is no reason to be afraid. Whatever happens, I will survive. So now onto living. It is time for me to thrive." - DrJekyll
iamsoblind42 (original poster member #42022) posted at 6:52 AM on Sunday, January 12th, 2014
Finally managed to get out if bed.
Took shower till all the hot water ran out and drank a glass if water. Am hungry but can't eat. I tried.
Confronted WH with questions. Claims last night was a drunken stupor and that it was the first time with my friend.
Says there were 2 other times 7 years ago when we almost got divorced over his financial infidelity.
I don't believe those we the only other times.
Keeps telling me how sorry his is.
I asked him what he was most worried about and he said losing me, our family and dying old and alone. The last part tells me it's still all about him.
I am so mad at myself for not divorcing him 7 years ago. Feel like I have wasted the last 7 years. Now instead of being 35, I'm 42 and before my kids were young enough not to have been as deeply wounded as they will be today.
I am allowing myself to wallow in self pity today only. Tomorrow is a new day and I WILL NOT lay in bed and cry all day.
Again, thanks to all that have been responding. I do not have anyone I can talk to about this and you are truly saving my sanity.
I'm a survivor, I'm gonna make it, I will survive, keep on surviving...
BS: me 44 (then 42)
WH: 50 (then 48)
2 kids
Married 18 years
D-day - 1/11/14
Filed - 1/16/14
Divorced 4/21/14
Walked in on WH and BF while her H watched
iamsoblind42 (original poster member #42022) posted at 7:01 AM on Sunday, January 12th, 2014
Plans for the week...
He is in the guest room.
He will tell or son (sparing gory details tomorrow). We will not tell our daughter as she is too young to understand (11).
I will find a counselor for me.
Not sure I can stomach the thought of STD testing right now.
I will get out of bed everyday, shower and exercise. Will drink water and try my best to eat something.
I will not blame myself anymore!
I'm a survivor, I'm gonna make it, I will survive, keep on surviving...
BS: me 44 (then 42)
WH: 50 (then 48)
2 kids
Married 18 years
D-day - 1/11/14
Filed - 1/16/14
Divorced 4/21/14
Walked in on WH and BF while her H watched
TheAgonyOfIt ( member #39114) posted at 7:06 AM on Sunday, January 12th, 2014
iamsoblind42,
Soo so so so so so sosoosososo sorry that you are facing this horror!!
and it is a horror.
you asked what do you do today?
move slow. take care of your basic needs. try to find someone you can confide in; it's a lot to bring to someone and I kept quiet for a long time and I wish i had someone to go to.
If can go into "crisis" mode you can run on adrenaline by taking care of the things like doctor's visits, appt with attorney to get info, etc.
My WS also has YEARS of financial infidelity and I am mad at myself for not leaving when that was all starting to become clear that it was not a short term problem. I was in my late 30s then, now i'm in my late 40s and yes, i feel the wasted years too.
Sounds like it is all about him. I don't know how long it will take you to process that, but when you do you can free yourself. Based on my experience there is no hope with all about him people unless you want to be a doormat.
and you're not blind. they are good at lying and manipulating
sorry i'm not more clear, i am so tired and drained but felt so terribly reading your post that wanted to at least reach our to you even if I couldn't give it my best as my brain is fried.
sorry sorry sorry
you will survive and thrive! PROMISE.
Not today, but one day, sooner than later.
Me BS 49, ExWS: narcissist! Jekyll Hyde. Left in secret early July, moved states. Left home, job, whole life behind and difficult** adjusting. Dog injured and too much to handle. Supremely bummed out.
iamsoblind42 (original poster member #42022) posted at 7:26 AM on Sunday, January 12th, 2014
Yearsofpain25 - yes, it was in our house and yes there is a chance my kids could have seen. Their son could of as well as our boys are best friends.
I'm a survivor, I'm gonna make it, I will survive, keep on surviving...
BS: me 44 (then 42)
WH: 50 (then 48)
2 kids
Married 18 years
D-day - 1/11/14
Filed - 1/16/14
Divorced 4/21/14
Walked in on WH and BF while her H watched
iamsoblind42 (original poster member #42022) posted at 7:31 AM on Sunday, January 12th, 2014
TheAgonyofIt - thank you. Sorry your story is similar. Sadly, the only thing that saved our marriage 7 years ago was that there was not another woman involved. Now I know that was a lie too!
Please keep me posted of how your are handling your situation.
So sad there are so many people hurting like me.
I'm a survivor, I'm gonna make it, I will survive, keep on surviving...
BS: me 44 (then 42)
WH: 50 (then 48)
2 kids
Married 18 years
D-day - 1/11/14
Filed - 1/16/14
Divorced 4/21/14
Walked in on WH and BF while her H watched
TheWrongedMan ( member #42009) posted at 11:45 AM on Sunday, January 12th, 2014
Hi,
Although my situation is different (remorseful wife had one night stand three days ago and then immediately told me), I can totally relate to how you feel.
RE the Jerry Springer/thought my parter was different stuff, I also basically can't believe that this ridiculous stuff is happening to us, and her having sex while drunk in a hotel with a colleague seems like something that would happen in a sh1t soap opera, not to us. Even she has acknowledged how embarrassing and ridiculous it all is, and used the word 'cliche' to sum it up.
Don't want to use your problems to vent mine, but as everyone has been so nice to me, I wanted to try and help someone else - and the only way I feel I have of doing that is to share what has happened to us and how it has made me feel. Good luck with it, I hope you feel better soon.
BH: Me, 37
WW: 37
Together: 17, married 7 (what a cliche)
DD: 10/1/14 V drunk ONS, confessed immediately, repentant
Kids: None (though we were trying)
cmego ( member #30346) posted at 12:42 PM on Sunday, January 12th, 2014
First, try to make sure you eat. I know it is hard, but just a little.
Second, kids aren't stupid. You can say that you are having marital problems and as soon as you know what is happening, you will answer all of their questions. I sent mine away for the weekends after D-day so I could have a mental break and they could go have fun. Or tell them when you calm down, you will talk to them. Answer honestly and simply. If they say, "Are you getting a D??" Answer, "I don't know yet."
Third. Call a therapist (IC here, Individual Counselor) for an appointment so you have someone safe to talk to.
Fourth. Lawyer up. You don't have to retain a L, you just need to know what your options are.
Fifth. Breathe.
Sixth. Do not allow ANY of them to "gaslight" you. That means they will downplay what you saw. Absolutely it is cheating. Don't talk to any of them right now as they are all in "cover" mode.
I know you feel stupid, but don't. If someone wants to lie to you, there is nothing you can do to change that. This is ALL on him. Do you have family to turn to? I did in the beginning, but my IC is really the person I turn to for emotional support.
One day at a time. You will go through a roller coaster of emotions. Perfectly normal. Hang in there!
me...BS, 46 years old.
Divorced
yearsofpain25 ( member #42012) posted at 7:33 PM on Sunday, January 12th, 2014
I will not blame myself anymore!
I like that iamsoblind42! Try and keep it up. If you haven't already your emotions may be turning to anger and possibly rage. I find that anger can be much more productive when it comes to getting your shit together. Focus like a laser on what you need to do for yourself and you will find that you can get through the drama better. Just don't go through your life angry like I have. Use it as a tool for the immediate now and dealing with the bs.
Keep us updated. Was thinking of you today.
"I remind myself of this. I am a survivor. I have taken all this world has dished out and am still here. So there is no reason to be afraid. Whatever happens, I will survive. So now onto living. It is time for me to thrive." - DrJekyll
iamsoblind42 (original poster member #42022) posted at 8:27 PM on Sunday, January 12th, 2014
I am pretty sure I am going to tell him he needs to move out.
I have been stuck in my room now for 2 days because I can't stand the sight if him.
I miss my kids and I should be the one hanging out with them, not him!!!
I took my wedding ring off today. Looking at it makes me want to vomit thinking about all the lies and broken promises.
I am going to sell it and use the money for a nice trip.
I'm a survivor, I'm gonna make it, I will survive, keep on surviving...
BS: me 44 (then 42)
WH: 50 (then 48)
2 kids
Married 18 years
D-day - 1/11/14
Filed - 1/16/14
Divorced 4/21/14
Walked in on WH and BF while her H watched
Tearsoflove ( member #8271) posted at 9:17 PM on Sunday, January 12th, 2014
Stop talking to your friend's husband. He has nothing to say to you that is helpful and he was a participant in your betrayal just as much as your husband and friend were. And, yes, oral sex is still sex. Your friend had sex with your husband. Your husband had sex with your friend. Her husband was watching and that makes him a participant, not just someone who walked in. He has not been betrayed so he has no idea what you're going through.
[This message edited by Tearsoflove at 3:19 PM, January 12th (Sunday)]
"Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand." ~Homer Simpson
iamsoblind42 (original poster member #42022) posted at 10:47 PM on Sunday, January 12th, 2014
I told to him to move out. Can't look at him right now and I don't want to feel like a prisoner in my own home.
We told the kids and he is packing now.
I will get through this....breathe...
I'm a survivor, I'm gonna make it, I will survive, keep on surviving...
BS: me 44 (then 42)
WH: 50 (then 48)
2 kids
Married 18 years
D-day - 1/11/14
Filed - 1/16/14
Divorced 4/21/14
Walked in on WH and BF while her H watched
Skan ( member #35812) posted at 10:56 PM on Sunday, January 12th, 2014
(((hugs))) I can't blame you at all. I don't think that I would be able to have him in the house after that as well.
If you're still having problems eating anything, get yourself some whole-nutrition drinks like Ensure. Sip them, a few oz at a time. That will help.
Try to get some rest today and enjoy your children. And then tomorrow, make an appointment with at least one lawyer and find out what your rights are and the likely spousal/child support you will receive. Knowledge is power and that will help you start planning a way forward. And do block that POS OM and his whore of a wife. You own them nothing up to and including spitting on them if they were fire.
Imagine a ship trying to set sail while towing an anchor. Cutting free is not a gift to the anchor. You must release that burden, not because the anchor is worthy, but because the ship is.
D-Day, June 10, 2012
yearsofpain25 ( member #42012) posted at 11:57 PM on Sunday, January 12th, 2014
I told to him to move out. Can't look at him right now and I don't want to feel like a prisoner in my own home.
We told the kids and he is packing now.
I will get through this....breathe...
You've got guts iamsoblind42. Which means you've probably got a big 'ol heart too. Share that heart with your kids tonight. They are going to be hurting too. They may or may not be running a range of emotions just like you. They could be angry or hurt or any number of things. If the are angry with you, they did just spend most of the day with their dad, don't sweat it. Any and all emotions are natural. You don't have to say much tonight. Let them see the hurt in you and hug them close, tight, and long. Engage them.
My thoughts will be with you and your family tonight. Stay the course. You are one tough lady.
"I remind myself of this. I am a survivor. I have taken all this world has dished out and am still here. So there is no reason to be afraid. Whatever happens, I will survive. So now onto living. It is time for me to thrive." - DrJekyll
scarednbroken ( member #41961) posted at 2:56 AM on Monday, January 13th, 2014
Iamsoblind: I am sorry that you are going through this. I want you to know that your bravery is amazing. I truly admire you. I have been fighting similar issues - only not with my best friend (that I know of!!) just that we have been stuck in a cycle. My 17 yo son DID discover what I had been hiding about my WH. He and I had a fervent discussion last night bc he was so upset that I was still going out with my WH and socializing with my friends. I have not confronted my WH at this point for what I feel will be the final time. I think I am still coming to terms with the finality that must be there and the pain I will be inflicting on my children. And the pain that I will have to help them through. Ntm finding an excellent lawyer that will represent me and not be compassionate toward him. (It's tougher than I thought.)
Be there for your kids. One of mine knows more gory details than I would like but it couldn't be avoided. Your son will be hurting and missing his dad - let him have a relationship with him as long as it seems healthy and your son wants it. Your daughter may be just better at hiding her feelings. Set terms of dating too. I personally would not want my kids around the paid women my WH prefers. He will have to do that on the non-visitation days. Also try not to be negative against your WH in front of the kids. It's more negative energy for you and the kids.
BS: Me 47 WH: 54 Kids: 17, 19, 21, 32 DD: every yr Ow: tons Status: fed-up. A woman should never invest in a relationship she wouldn't want for her daughter, nor should she allow any man to treat her in a way she would scold her son for
brkn_heartd ( member #30396) posted at 3:06 AM on Monday, January 13th, 2014
Iamsoblind,
I am so sorry you are going through this. Your kids are smart, minimize the details but you will need to address it with your daughter too. While you are trying to protect her, keep in mind her brother may tell her. It is better for her to hear it from you.
See a lawyer sooner than later. This way if he decides "you can't kick him out" and tries to return, you will know your rights. Change the locks if the lawyer says you can.
Eat, drink and take care of yourself. Do you have a good support system around you?
Me-57 BS
Him 65-WS
Married 38 yrs, together 40
Affair Aug-Dec 09
official D-12/14/09
broke NC 1/31/10
second D 3/19/10
Sumrlady ( member #4355) posted at 7:52 AM on Monday, January 13th, 2014
I don't have a lot to add because you have gotten excellent advice and are doing all the right things, except to say that since you already told your son and then backed out of it, you do need to explain yourself to him just the way RippedSoul recommended. Your son needs to know that he can trust you and right now, the way you left it, he can't.
Also, I don't believe for a minute that this is the first time with the BF and her H. Seriously, how would that happen that the very first time it happened with them 1) you caught them in your home, and 2) he was giving her oral sex while her husband watched. Nope, that is something that requires some working up to.
Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover-Mark Twain
theansweris42 ( new member #40861) posted at 8:18 AM on Monday, January 13th, 2014
I'm so sorry you're going through this...
It was happening in your own house? Were you expected to be home? Where were your kids while this was happening? Hammered or not... This is totally unacceptable. I've read a lot of stories on here, and I thought mine was pretty bad... But oh my goodness... I am so sorry that you had to experience something so incredibly traumatic. You are so very strong.
shatter-ed ( member #27159) posted at 10:50 AM on Monday, January 13th, 2014
As sad and sorry as I am that you had to find this site it is good that you found it so quickly, took me months and I did many things wrong at first.
There are many people her who will give you better advice than I can but I wanted you to know you are not alone, many of our WS used our/their homes, my WH had sex with a neighbor in her house and although her BH and son were at work and school respectively they could have come home? It beggars belief! However I am not sure if the BH knew (and agreed to it) all along as he apparently set his computer up to video them... I finally found out through the BH showing me a still photo from the video after they stopped doing it in her house and went to a hotel (he wasn't getting a share of it anymore so decided to expose? crazy? just shows you don't know anyone except yourself)
Good luck on this journey, you are very early on and how you feel today will probably be different next week/month. Just make sure you look after yourself -drink, eat little and often, sleep-especially as you have 2 children who also need you.
BS (me)
WH
3 amazing kids.
Separated Dec 2016
DDay - 06/11/09 MOW desperate fugly neighbor
iamsoblind42 (original poster member #42022) posted at 2:56 PM on Monday, January 13th, 2014
Wow last night was rough. Don't think I slept more than 1 hour.
I made him leave because I can't look at him and don't want to feel like I should be punished in my own home yet I can't stop checking to see if he had called, emailed, messaged, anything...
I don't want to talk to him yet but I want him to be begging, sobbing and miserable.
Is that normal?
If he is SOOOO sorry and loves me SOOOO much why isn't he showing it?
I'm a survivor, I'm gonna make it, I will survive, keep on surviving...
BS: me 44 (then 42)
WH: 50 (then 48)
2 kids
Married 18 years
D-day - 1/11/14
Filed - 1/16/14
Divorced 4/21/14
Walked in on WH and BF while her H watched
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