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jjct ( member #17484) posted at 10:00 PM on Wednesday, May 21st, 2014

Sending strength dear (((Phoenix)))

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LosferWords ( member #30369) posted at 10:03 PM on Wednesday, May 21st, 2014

((((Phoenix))))

Sending strength and hugs.

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sisoon ( Moderator #31240) posted at 10:09 PM on Wednesday, May 21st, 2014

(((Phoenix1)))

fBH (me) - on d-day: 66, Married 43, together 45, same sex apDDay - 12/22/2010Recover'd and R'edYou don't have to like your boundaries. You just have to set and enforce them.

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Waiting4Daylite ( member #36213) posted at 10:21 PM on Wednesday, May 21st, 2014

Phoenix I check this thread everyday to see how you are doing. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your DDs.

I just wanted to say that you have shown us so much strength and grace through all of this. You were thrown into the depths of Hell but like a true Phoenix you have and are continuing to rise through the ashes. It may not seem like it but you will rise through to the sunlight. You have your family and you have us gently pushing and supporting you the whole way.

For some reason, the flag that was draped on him on the mountain is the one I want.

IMHO you want this flag because it touched your baby, just like the baby blanket you tucked him in at night.

((((Take care dear Phoenix))))

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jjsr ( member #34353) posted at 10:28 PM on Wednesday, May 21st, 2014

I am so sorry for your losses. Sending good thoughts to you and your family

Me: BS
Him: WS
Married since 1985
Parents to 2 adult sons and 3 of the cutest cats you have ever seen
D-day 8/6/11 Truth about ONS and 9/21/11 Truth about EA and 10/28/15 NEW dday.
Just surviving.

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tushnurse ( member #21101) posted at 11:26 PM on Wednesday, May 21st, 2014

((((Phoenix)))))

Just keep putting one foot in front of the other, and before you know it, a week, a month, a year will have gone by, the pain won't be so fresh, and so raw. Your to do list won't be so long.

Things will get better. No one should have to live through the loss of a child, but now you know it won't make the world stop, you will get through this just like you have survived everything up to this point.

((((and strength))))

Me: FBSHim: FWSKids: 23 & 27 Married for 32 years now, was 16 at the time.D-Day Sept 26 2008R'd in about 2 years. Old Vet now.

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still2suspicious ( member #31722) posted at 11:50 PM on Wednesday, May 21st, 2014

IMHO you want this flag because it touched your baby, just like the baby blanket you tucked him in at night

^^this. It really doesn't matter why you want this flag, you just do. And that, my dear, is perfectly OK. You don't need to justify/explain your feelings to anyone. YOU ARE THE MOM!!!

I can't imagine the paperwork involved, but you will get to it when you get to it. This is still so fresh, give yourself some time. If something HAS to be done, well then, you tackle just that one thing. Before you know it the pile will be gone.

I so, so wish there is something we could do for you, something to help ease your burden. Sadly I do not know what that might be.

Sending you prayers and hugs for today.

Me: BSHim: WHDDay: LTEA Every storm runs out of rain - Gary Allen
D final 2/23

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lordhasaplan? ( member #30079) posted at 5:46 PM on Thursday, May 22nd, 2014

Phoenix,

Just thinking of you and hoping your taking care of yourself as best you can.

BS- Me (45)D-day: 5/18/10, lies and TT till (11/26/10). Currently in R.Don't carry others crap. It's your job to fix yourself, not your spouse.

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 Phoenix1 (original poster member #38928) posted at 7:26 PM on Thursday, May 22nd, 2014

Just received the results of the coroner's toxicology report for DS. Absolutely nothing found in his system. No alcohol, no drugs, nothing. That, in itself, answers or changes nothing. What it does tell me is that he had psychological demons plaguing him that drove him to such a desperate act. We believe part of it was PTSD from his deployment to Afghanistan and the horrific events he was involved in there, and the trauma of losing his beloved uncle in the mudslide triggered it. That, and some other sources of immense stress we are aware of, all culminated in his apparent belief there was no other answer.

We will never know for sure what he was really thinking or feeling, and all we can do is speculate. I don't agonize over not knowing because it won't bring him back, but I am saddened that as much as I encouraged him to talk to someone on base for the PTSD (I saw red flags) being triggered by the mudslide event he wouldn't do it. All he would tell me is, "I really appreciate your concern, mom, and I love you for it, but I am okay." Clearly, he was not okay.

Such a waste of a truly wonderful human being. He would have done amazing things in his life and it saddens me that I will never get to see it.

A little melancholy today, brought on by the coroner's phone call...

fBS - Me
Xhole - Multiple LTAs/2 OCs over 20+yrs
Adult Kids
Happily divorced!

You can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending. ~C.S. Lewis~

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MovingUpward ( member #14866) posted at 7:28 PM on Thursday, May 22nd, 2014

(((Phoenix)))

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ZenMumWalking ( member #25341) posted at 7:30 PM on Thursday, May 22nd, 2014

((((Phoenix))))

I'm so sorry how much this all hurts.

((((Phoenix))))

Me (BS), Him (WH): late-50's
3 DS: 26, 25, 22
M: 30+ (19 1/2 at Dday)
Dday: Dec 2008
Wanted R, not gonna happen (in permanent S)
Used to be DeadMumWalking, doing better now

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deeplysad ( member #16590) posted at 8:06 PM on Thursday, May 22nd, 2014

((((Phoenix))))

Me: BW - I'm much too young to feel this damn old
Him: FWH - Midlife crisis with a pathetic porn wannabe
D-Day: August 2004; Lots of false R until February 2005.

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heartbroken_kk ( member #22722) posted at 9:28 PM on Thursday, May 22nd, 2014

sending a hug for you today, Phoenix. Breathe and let our love flow through you.

((((Phoenix))))

FBW then 46, XWHNPDPAFTG the destroyer of my entire life. D-Day 1 '99, D-Day 2,3,4,5,6... '09-'11, D '15. I fell apart. I put myself back together. Forgiveness isn't required. I'm happy and healthy now, and MY new life is good.

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Skan ( member #35812) posted at 11:52 PM on Thursday, May 22nd, 2014

(((hugs)))

Imagine a ship trying to set sail while towing an anchor. Cutting free is not a gift to the anchor. You must release that burden, not because the anchor is worthy, but because the ship is.

D-Day, June 10, 2012


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jo2love ( member #31528) posted at 12:59 AM on Friday, May 23rd, 2014

(((Phoenix)))

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devasted30 ( member #39439) posted at 1:24 AM on Friday, May 23rd, 2014

(((((Phoenix))))) can you feel the hug?

And remember Murphy is right. Nothing is so bad that it can't get worse!!!

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nowiknow23 ( member #33226) posted at 1:53 AM on Friday, May 23rd, 2014

((((((Phoenix)))))))

You can call me NIK

And never grow a wishbone, daughter, where your backbone ought to be.
― Sarah McMane

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Jrazz ( member #31349) posted at 1:54 AM on Friday, May 23rd, 2014

(((Phoenix1)))

"Don't give up, the beginning is always the hardest." - Deeply Scared's mom

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LA44 ( member #38384) posted at 2:17 AM on Friday, May 23rd, 2014

I am so sorry Phoenix1.

Me: 44
He: 47 WH
Married: 15 years
D Day: December 2012
Affair: Fall 2009 - Dec. 2011
R is not linear

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TrulyReconciled ( member #3031) posted at 2:57 PM on Friday, May 23rd, 2014

(((((Phoenix1)))))

I'm sorry for your tragic loss

"In a time of deceit, telling the Truth is a revolutionary act."

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