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Dorothy123 (original poster member #53116) posted at 2:15 AM on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2016
Did your WS use condoms and or protections during the PA ?
My ex didn't.
This is a follow up to vent thread.
http://www.survivinginfidelity.com/forums.asp?tid=594085
"I’ll get you my pretty, and your little dog too!" Wicked Witch of the West.
nutmegkitty ( member #33882) posted at 2:19 AM on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2016
Nope. Hence the resulting demon spawn.
Me - happy!
2 DDs
Very happily divorced from an NPD since 2013.
tushnurse ( member #21101) posted at 2:28 AM on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2016
Nope. You don't need those in unicorn land. Any cheater tells you otherwise is lying.
There are no unplanned babies or STDs to worry about there.
Always always always get the full STD workup and make your partner do too and be clean for 6 mos before having any unprotected sex.
[This message edited by tushnurse at 10:25 AM, September 22nd (Friday)]
Me: FBSHim: FWSKids: 23 & 27 Married for 32 years now, was 16 at the time.D-Day Sept 26 2008R'd in about 2 years. Old Vet now.
mouthkeptshut ( member #54085) posted at 2:38 AM on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2016
Nope. She swore they did, every time. Even took the morning after pill once or twice. Sound strange? Yeah I thought so too.
Then I saw the video he took of them having sex, which he sent to her in spite after DDay because he knew I was watching her emails -- that's how I found out about the affair, after all. Real up close and personal action shot. Distinct lack of condom.
When I told her what I saw? Oh boy. "He told me he put one on", "it felt like he was wearing one", "I trust him" (to not have STDs). On what planet do you not see or feel what is happening? It wasn't exactly a poorly lit video.
God what a load of bullshit that was. How can you NOT KNOW? Can one of you ladies back me up, can you really not tell the difference between bareback and protected sex? It boggles my mind.
BH
Dday: 7/3/2016, 5 month EA/PA
Breakaway ( member #50448) posted at 2:39 AM on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2016
Nope. Although he lied to me for nearly a year and said he did. Just got STI tests today.
Me: BW (32)/Him: WH (34) serial cheater
Married: 16 years/Children: DS 14
OWs: At least 8 over 15 years
D-Days: 2015-18 (10 total)
Heyheywhatcanido ( new member #52425) posted at 2:43 AM on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2016
Nope, they never do. She also lied for 7 months adamantly. Apparently my WW was only concerned about getting pregnant and her AP told her about his vasectomy, so all good. Right??
Fantasy land indeed.
Marie2792 ( member #44958) posted at 2:51 AM on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2016
My husband did I even saw the box in one of OWs photos. However yes I can tell the difference between a condom or not and until 2014 had not used any in about 20 years.
Me: BS,48 (41 at dday)Him: WS, 56 (49 at dday)Married 27 years, together 30 Dday : 9/9/14 3 week PA
northeasternarea ( member #43214) posted at 2:51 AM on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2016
He said yes, I got tested and so did he.
The only person you can change is yourself.
trying2015 ( member #48497) posted at 2:54 AM on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2016
In the beginning they did..for how long I don't know..but apparently she would bleed alittle everytime so she went on the pill (or so COW told him)....so no condoms after that...but bleeding never stop..but no concern there for idiot WH apparently..
Me..MH.2011..i kissed another man
Him..MH..2013-2014 LTA 15 mths with married COW
Him...2009..different COW
Together 17 years...married 10
2 amazing kids
My DDay..1/1/2015..his..1/3/2015
BW2639 ( member #34875) posted at 3:14 AM on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2016
Nope .... Pretty sure she felt guilty that they'd did not use condoms, but we did. So, she asked me to get fixed. At the time , She said that she was having allergic reactions to the latex. ... still sounds "fishy " to me.
TryingT ( member #46629) posted at 3:18 AM on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2016
No, my WH didn't use condoms. He said she didn't look like the kind of person who had an STD
So now I have a cancer causing strain of HPV and hmmmm...I wonder who I got that from?
DD#1 7/17/14--blindsided
Many D-Days until Feb/2015
The more I dug,the more I found.
me, BW 44 (at D-Day)
WH 56 (at D-Day
Married 5 years; together for 9 (at D-day)
Second marriage; 3 kids from prior marriages ages 13-19. (at D-Day)
BlueIris ( member #47551) posted at 3:19 AM on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2016
Sort of (during second encounter), but OW1 was an active sex worker (stripper) during the first encounter when he went down on her; went down on her again 15 months later - wore a condom for PIV sex but again, no oral protection.
And with OW2: no protection while he performed oral sex on her, either. He did wear a condom (for PIV x 3), but she had cancer (cervical, most likely) and if that was caused by HPV (again, very likely), well, a condom doesn't protect against HPV. Two months after their sexy weekend, she had a hysterectomy due to cancer. I feel like it's a ticking time bomb for me.
BW | Dday 2-20-2015 + TT for several weeks
"The truth will set you free but first it will piss you off."
Cougins ( member #50196) posted at 3:20 AM on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2016
Nope, but of course, she said she did. It was only after AP #4 (that I'm aware of) provided texts and emails where she talked about their interaction as well as her previous AP's could I confirm she didn't. Her AP was nice enough to hand write crib notes pointing out many of the sordid details.
Me: BH - 53
Her: WW - 44
Attended Retrouvaille and attempting R - trying to figure out if R is real. Update-it's not. Separated!
DDay #1: February 2013 – EA
DDay #2: 10/9/15 – PA
DDay #3 and #4: 11/12/15 - 2 PA’s in 2014.
Furious1 ( member #42970) posted at 3:41 AM on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2016
Yes and no. Mostly no. Early on, WH never used condoms and that resulted in two OC with two different OW. The first was born during our first year of marriage. The second was born during our second year of marriage. Our daughter was born 3 months after the 2nd OC. After she was born, he had a vasectomy.
After the second OW had the OC, WH started using condoms with her until his vasectomy came back successful. After that, he went back to not using condoms. As twisted as it is, WH convinced the OW that they were trying for another OC (at her insistence). He neglected to mention his vasectomy to her though.
The only time he used a condom after that was with my sister once in a while. He said that he would insist on wearing a condom with her when her lady parts stunk really bad. Either that or he would insist on receiving oral only. To me, her stinking that bad should have been more than enough to not be willing to go there no matter how many condoms were being worn. He said he didn't want to hurt her feelings to badly by rejecting her completely. Whatever! So that made him willing to poke that pot despite the obvious risks and be willing to bring that shit home to me. UGH!
BW (me): 46
2 adult kids
D-day: 10/4/13.
Divorced
JpnHeartBreak ( member #54689) posted at 3:57 AM on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2016
No, he lied and said he did, though. It wasn't until I found out about AP#2 and saw the FB message she sent him saying "Hey, Mr. "I don't want anymore kids" but you nut in me 3 times.. How are you?" That the truth of his recklessness came out. Thank God there aren't any OCs. The fact that he didn't even attempt to protect my health/our financial stability is the thing I struggle with the most.
Flatlined123 ( member #35862) posted at 4:15 AM on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2016
H claims they did the first time, but then not after that. She worked in the hospital cafeteria and told him she had to get tested every six months for STDs so she knew she was clean.
He fell for that. Sure explains why I was getting yeast infections all the time, when I'd never had a problem before. I got tested for STDs right away and get tested every year for HPV. So far nothing, but I keep waiting for something to show up.
I'll never be able to forgive him for taking the risk of exposing me to God knows what. I'm so very thankful I didn't get anything.
Me: BS H: WS4 kids DD #1 7-11-08DD#2 8-21-09 same OW, A never ended.Started R in 12-09"If what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, I should be able to bench press a Buick."
RippedSoul ( member #40055) posted at 4:48 AM on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2016
Nope. He never even considered it. The AP, although experienced as a cheater, was too perfect to have any diseases. Plus, he was having ED issues, so why add any more impediments to the star struck love fests?
For the prostitute, he purchased (but didn't use) condoms. He also purchased them for use with Escorts 1 and 2. ED problems with #2 meant the condom tore so she offered to go out to her car and get another. She never came back.
Me? I got BV--not technically an STD but definitely a first for me. The antibiotics for it caused yeast infections. Then I went back and forth between YI and BV--sometimes both simultaneously--for months and months and months. It took years, lots of meds, and probiotics to finally get my always-before healthy system back to normal.
Not that I cared what happened to them (his cornucopia of loose women), but I reminded him that I had herpes (since I was 3--likely the oral type transferred to my genitals via my thumb-sucking). If she was so special, how could he dare expose her? BTW, my SAWH is a PhD scientist (hard sciences). And an atheist. Yet he could pretend that science wasn't valid when it came to sexual health. They're clueless when in La La Land, aren't they? Amazing!
BW: 55; SLAWH: 52; M: 28 yrs
DD#1--11/30/12 (prostitute 1)
DD#2--1/29/13 (WH confessed: P1, AP, escorts 1 & 2)
DD#3--9/13 (trolling MILF site)
DD#4--10/8/13 (EA with AP cont'd)
DD: 26; DD: 24; DS: 22; DS: 20
I've never NOT edited my posts.
InPurgatory ( member #52668) posted at 4:59 AM on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2016
Nope. AP told him she didn't have any STDs, and he believed her because of course she was such a "nice" person that she would never lie about something like that.. Since he had a vasectomy several years back, they didn't see any need. She was not on any BC either. Idiots. Both of them.
Me - BS 59
Him - WS 59
AP - his "friend" (she was 24 when the A started, he was 52)
M 34 yrs, together 39yrs.
2 adult offspring
D-Day#1: 6-29-14 , Final DDay: 5-19-15 (too many others in between to count, due to continued breaking of NC
Olivetree ( member #49704) posted at 5:29 AM on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2016
Reading this thread just makes me so sad. It just confirms the dense fog that clouds the A brain.
As Tushnurse says..
You dont need those in unicorn land. Any cheater tells you otherwose is lying.
There are no unplanned babies or STDs to worry about there.
My H didn't. His AP was a healthcare professional and therefore had to undergo regular testing. She had also had a hysterectomy (due to cervical cancer) therefore no chance of pregnancy.
I paid the price with BV and a couple of little other gifts. Of course, he lied about the sex for years so I didn't have the privilege of knowing that the pain I was experiencing was due to his infidelity. It's only in retrospect that I am able to piece it together. I feel so violated.
Me: BW, Him: WH
D-Day: 5/27/2009
D-Day2: 9/22/2015
Together: 26yrs, Divorcing
Don't we all die someday and someday comes all too soon? What will you do with your own wild, glorious chance at this thing we call life -- Mary Oliver
Hobbyist ( member #55532) posted at 5:44 AM on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2016
Nope, the OM got snipped. Messed up thing is, I still used condoms with WW while the OM wasn't. That part really gets to me...
BH, 30's with 3 beautiful kids. Divorced in 2017 - SO much happier!
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