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WH says yes, every time though there may have been "some rubbing" without penetration without protection.

I did find condoms in his travel bag (he met OW out of town on biz trips). WH had a vasectomy 10 years before his A.

HOWEVER. I learned here that condoms don't exist in unicorn land, so I pretty much roll my eyes at the idea they used them "every time." Sometimes they had sex in the middle of the night (after retiring to bed drunk as skunks), and I doubt that anyone got up out of bed to get the rubbers out of someone's suitcase. He can't remember what happened in those circumstances, of course.

Remember when condoms were called "rubbers?" My college-age sons don't know that word.

No.

Never.

Not even the first time.

She emphatically claimed/lied that they always did.

Never no matter what type of sex it was.

Doing so would have inserted too much reality into their Love Of Legends.

She had her tubes tied when our second son was born - just 10 weeks prior to the beginning of their sex-for-compliments arrangement commonly termed as "affair".

There is no doubt at all that, had she not had her tubes tied prior to this, she would have gotten pregnant by her adultery partner.

We were not having sex at all while it was going on.

The "gut-feeling" was strong and I was turned off by her.

[This message edited by keptmyword at 6:24 PM, November 2nd (Wednesday)]

fWH claims he did with all his OWs except the last one that he fell in lurve with. And she was (and still is) a whore. Literally. So it's off to the doctor for the next however many years for repeated tests that I never should have had to take in the first place.

Oh, you were being serious? He only used a condom when the prostitute made him. When he wasn't made to wear one, he certainly wasn't going to ruin his experience by doing so. How I didn't get an STD I'll never know.

No. Not once.

Why didn't they?

"She's not like that," was the answer after dday. Yes, the woman who is cool banging a married man has too high of morals to have an STD.

Yes, but condoms don't fully protect against some STDs. I got cancer-causing HPV from his PA.

Of course not, because OW asked him to get her pregnant.

Sh assured him there'd be no responsibility, financial or otherwise for the child, yup, total NSA sex. What guy can resist that number one come on ever? Certainly not my asswipe husband. I think there was some shit about how incredibly smart and gorgeous our 4 kids are -- damn straight -- but that's mostly my doing

Best part of the whole fiasco is that I have herpes, which we'd been very careful to not pass to H. Seems, however, he was a non-symptomatic carrier, so oops, that safely married man who looked so wholesome?

Maybe you should have demanded condoms after all....

No, said she never thought about it even though AP was a needle using heroin addict but swore he never shared needles........

Ironically, only after she was pregnant with their A-baby. He manned up and paid for the abortion the day before DDay, though. So there's that.

Well you see, the darned thing slipped off and since they were both sooo sure that their spouses weren't cheating they stopped using them. You know, the same thing we thought about them being true blue.

Meanwhile, my WH was screwing others and who the hell knows if she or any of them were as well. I'm amazed my STD test was clean.

Nope, not during either of their 3 affairs. That led to her pregnancy and abortion after the first one. He had lied about a vasectomy and then lied more when she told him she was pregnant.

Second one she was on the pill, lied to me about why.

Third one she was menopausal and I have no idea about him, I assume he had a vasectomy by then.

BTW she didn't use condoms even though she knew he was a liar, he said his wife was cheating and he had cheated with other women.

That's some CRAZY stuff! They are all crazy to take such a risk but putting my health in jeopardy is one of the things I will not be able to forgive, That and stealing money by using our credit cards for hotels and lingerie.

WW states that yes, they did, except in one case with AP2 (right before her period).

I believe that, because I have recording where she didn't have "regular" sex with AP3 because he didn't bring condoms. She tried to suck him off (without success) instead.

When I asked "What about STDs?". She said that she trusted him (AP2) when he said he had only 2 or 3 women before her.

I was diagnosed minor STI.

#4AP was snipped. So No condoms. No wonder sex was so great there. Any time, Any place.

#2AP yes they did use condoms, sometimes. But she got pregnant.

So I asked how did THAT happen, I was told, IDK, maybe we wanted to feel skin on skin.

(I read Sex was just too hot to stop ).

So then I was told 'but we didn't have sex often, just a few times'.

Does ANYBODY want to quantify 'a few' for me??

No, and I will pay the price of that for the rest of my life

Nope

Well I kept finding condoms in his work briefcases. Then some would disappear. But he swore he never has sex with anyone. And he told me they were old ones he kept putting from bag to bag when he changed bags. But we hadn't used condoms in over ten years. I was so gaslit I even went so far as checking the expiry dates to see when approx they were manufactured. According to those rough estimates kindly provided on the condom manufacturers website (probably have a lot of suspicious partners checking on things lol) I determined that he most probably purchased them as soon as we arrived in the new country (his previous cheating paradise). But he still never had sex with anyone.

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No, of course not. He had had a vasectomy and there was no chance of STDs because.........well.......she was married! I guess that meant she was virtuous or something.

Of course not. And I am still quite resentful of that.

No, and apparently they specifically discussed it. I fooled the AP into believing I was someone else and had an e-mail conversation with him about his A's, including the A with my fWW. He mentioned knowing that my wife was trying to get pregnant at the time of the A, but they only used a condom once “and then said fuck it - we knew the risks.” Well, fortunately he didn't get her pregnant, but a couple of years later she learned that she had HPV and then tried to blame it on me (I didn't actually find out about the A until about 12 years after it was over). She knew he had A's with a number of other women, but it was still ok with her to not use protection, even when she was off the pill.

Mind blowing.

Nope. You don't need those in unicorn land.

This is why tushnurse is one of my favorite smart-asses on the boards!

No, myWW didn't use condoms even once, and her knowing her LTA partner had cheated repeatedly on his wife, with some pretty skanky women. She said she dreaded going for her gyno check-ups, afraid she would test positive. Yet even that didn't stop her.