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Crushed7 ( member #41129) posted at 11:13 PM on Thursday, January 10th, 2019

He is now a case study in "Actions, not words." Amazon famously promotes the Jeff Bezos "Leadership Principles" as the rationale for how it is and will continue to be successful. They are all words. Actions show that he is willing to subject workers to an unhelathy culture, lie about the HQ2 search to extract public funded tax credits from more than one city and cheats on his wife. Words make him seem like a guru while actions show him to be a self-centered, manipulative fraud. I hope his wife gets everything she can and that Amazon customers and employees wake up to the impact of continuing to feed this man their money and time.

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TICKED OFF ( member #8291) posted at 11:15 PM on Thursday, January 10th, 2019

"got the shaft". I would take the money. I am sure that would help me deal quite nicely with the whole affair. Tyger Woods ex seems to be doing just fine.

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Rideitout ( member #58849) posted at 12:01 AM on Friday, January 11th, 2019

He is now a case study in "Actions, not words."

They all are. I'm not sure how many of you have had a chance to rub shoulders with this group, the wildly wealthy "younger" men, but, let me just say, I've known enough of them to come to a few conclusions. And the first conclusion is blindingly obvious, big time wealth leads to, in almost everyone who gets it, an unbelievable ability to say one thing and do another. Far beyond what a normal person could/would consider normal or healthy, it's mindboggling. I've seen some of these guys rail on for hours about family values, then, 2 hours later at the bar, pick up a woman (or call a prostitute) and sunder away smiling the whole time. Fire someone for performance when, at the same time, the reason that person's performance was off is because the person doing the firing torpedoed the deal. The hypocrisy is beyond.. Well, just beyond.

So, yes, all these execs get up and talk about creating jobs while exporting them to China, family values while snorting cocaine, how much they love their wives while getting a BJ. And, in my experience, it's not like this is a "rotten apple", it's just the norm. Take men, mix in tons of money and power and you will see results like this all the time. There's a expose that was recently written about the silicon valley tech culture, I can't remember the name, but it was quite a splash when it came out. I just shook my head and thought "ugh, no s**t, where have all you people been".

Actions show that he is willing to subject workers to an unhelathy culture, lie about the HQ2 search to extract public funded tax credits from more than one city

Corporations are psychopathic. Look it up, but if you think about it, they act just like a psychopath. Do whatever is best for them, no morality at all, say one thing and do another, survive at all costs. This is what we expect of them, we demand they talk about ethics and morality, but then we reward those that act the most ruthless and psychopathic monetarily. If you're trying to figure out what a big corp will do next, just think "if you had no morals at all, what would you do". That's probably going to give you the most accurate representation of their typical actions. Of course they split HQ2 between 2 cities, why suck on one government teat when you can get 2.

There's not really a problem with corporations behaving this way, IMHO, it's probably the best way for them to excel and release new products and services that we all want to consume. What bothers me is that they try to say something else. It's like a WS saying "I always loved you" while having an A. Actions say otherwise, and actions are what matters.

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Cooley2here ( member #62939) posted at 12:19 AM on Friday, January 11th, 2019

What is it with fame and duck lips? Who tells these people that they look good. The OW was a nice looking woman but she is scary looking now. I don’t think there is one thing wrong with plastic surgery as long as it works but someone sold her a bill of goods.

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Oftencheatedon ( member #41268) posted at 12:50 AM on Friday, January 11th, 2019

Jeff Bezos is probably guilty as hell - BUT what do we really know? Just what we read in the press which is not known these days for doing more than putting out a "good" story.

I have a relative (but we are not close) who is uber wealthy. Not billions - but 100s of millions.

His wife had an affair - not him. He begged her to stay and R. But he did start dating after she nixed that as his ego was just trashed.

I'm sure to many on the outside it could have looked like he'd left his wife for a girlfriend - but that was the furthest thing from the truth.

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Rideitout ( member #58849) posted at 1:14 AM on Friday, January 11th, 2019

Jeff Bezos is probably guilty as hell

If this isn't A number 5-10 for Jeff, I'd be really surprised. I'm telling you, until you see the inside of the world that a JB type person lives in, you just can't imagine the debauchery. Yes, maybe he didn't partake in it, that is possible. But it's unlikely, especially if now he's on his way out of his M after an A. This is probably 1 of many and this one, he either got emotionally involved or is putting on a good show for the media (for some reason, "I'm leaving my wife because I love her" is a better answer than "she was an easy lay"). We'll see, my prediction, D, and then the new "girlfriend" (easy lay) is gone in within a few months. And the new "girlfriend" will probably be well compensated for her time and appearances with Jeff to help repair his public image.

Cynical? Maybe I am. But I'm also so sick of people getting the wool pulled over their eyes when things like this break. Reminds me of Tiger Woods, no s**t he was screwing around. I have a lot more respect for the men who used to tell it how it is, Wilt Chamberlain comes to mind with his "20,000 women" claim. Yes, he might have been a bit of an outlier, but his 20,000 is a LOT more believable than the "Tiger's" of the world getting up and saying "it's the first time". No it's not. This is like affair 50 for you, it was either finally enough for your W or you embarrassed her enough that she decided to call it quits. And in some cases, the media digs and gets more dirt, in others, they don't and everyone thinks "Oh, he's a good guy, just had a little slip up". Not hardly. The only way you could think that is if you never met and interacted with people like that. Which most people haven't, so it sounds believable. It's not, not even a little bit. And maybe we'll get the same thing with Bezos, the other women will start to come out of the woodwork, a #MeToo claim or 2, perhaps a few professionals. We'll see.

[This message edited by Rideitout at 7:15 PM, January 10th (Thursday)]

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steadychevy ( member #42608) posted at 2:11 AM on Friday, January 11th, 2019

I would have gladly given up all my earthly possessions to not have another man screw my wife.

I would change it a little NP5 to "I would have gladly given up all my earthly possessions to not have my wife screw another man". Just because it's on her. And I would have.

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sassylee ( member #45766) posted at 2:57 AM on Friday, January 11th, 2019

It’s actually a double betrayal for the BS as the couple were friends. So this isn’t just a one night conquest or whatever. Look at the texts. He thinks he’s in lurrrrve. And if you look at her history with men - it’s all about fame and money.

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Thanksgiving2016 ( member #63462) posted at 4:03 AM on Friday, January 11th, 2019

That’s a motive that isn’t usually mentioned but many usually women have affairs to move up the social ladder. My WH AP wanted to be me. She was trading sex for what she saw as a better life than her current husband was giving her. She thought she would be getting a life of leisure on my WH dime.

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still-living ( member #30434) posted at 8:16 AM on Friday, January 11th, 2019

Big time wealth leads to, in almost everyone who gets it, an unbelievable ability to say one thing and do another.

This reminds me of the article, The Bathsheba Syndrome: The Ethical Failure of Successful Leaders, by Dean C. Ludwig, Clinton 0. Longenecker.

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Rideitout ( member #58849) posted at 11:09 AM on Friday, January 11th, 2019

Well, I've learned something new today, there's a name for it. Yes, that is exactly what I'm talking about, and I'm glad to see there's so much research on it, I had no idea it had been so well studied. For those who don't care to read it, the synopsis is this, "absolute power corrupts absolutely". And of all the "corruptions" of power, this is the one I see most commonly. I see people with amazing financial control over staggering amounts of money who have never "stuck their hand in the piggy bank". People can act ethically when they have lots of power, it is possible but it is difficult. Particularly, IMHO, when it comes to men and sex.

This is going to come across as blaming the victim, but, it's not, so please don't look at it that way. But I think it comes down to expectations, desire and reality. Let me use the example from before, why do I know men who wouldn't steal a dollar from the company if you left them a vault filled with unmarked bills and very few/no men who would turn down their 20 year old secretary for a BJ under the desk? IMHO, it comes down to what they really desire vs what they already have. So, let's say we put the CFO of my company into the vault. This guy's total comp is in the neighborhood of 5M a year. He's got a few houses, nice cars, a huge severance package coming to him if we fire him, the respect of his peers and industry, and a job that validates him constantly for how good he is at his work. So, back to the vault, do I have any concern about him taking a few stacks of 100's? Or bringing in a suitcase and taking a few M out the back door? No, I don't. Because he's already so rich, what's he going to do with another few M bucks? The upside isn't worth it, money can no longer motivate him and he's "ethical" because he's so satiated on money that there's no chance he'll make the effort to steal.

But take that same guy, put him in the vault with a really attractive girl from HR who's been told "If you get him to sleep with you, you'll be set for life financially" and now what? Would I trust him if that girl was my daughter or niece? Nope, no more than I'd trust a fall down drunk with a "loan" for 10 bucks to buy another case of beer. What changed? Why did "Mr. Won't Steal a dime" suddenly become morally deficient?

It comes down to "riches". The CFO is rich beyond rich when it comes to money. There's almost nothing he can't buy already so there's almost no chance of him taking more. But sexually, if he's like most guys I know, he considers himself a pauper. Now, this is where the "expectations" come in, perhaps his expectations are WAY out of line, I'm not going to argue that. But he considers himself sexually "starved". That attractive girl in the vault with him is offering him something that's far more attractive than money, and he, like many other powerful men, is much more likely to put his hand in the piggy bank if it's sex on offer vs money. And you can see this in our HR department, as long as I've been with the company, I can't remember us discharging a single high level employee for theft. But in the past year, I can recall 2 who were fired for sexual things (one was sleeping with a client, the other with an employee). Both guys making big bucks, still not enough to keep them from dipping into the company pot for sex.

I read a study a few years ago talking about preferred sexual frequency between men and women in a committed relationship and, while I was shocked by the numbers; I wasn't at all shocked by the ratios. IIRC, most men wanted sex 2-3 times a week, women 2-3 times a month and the actual was about 1X per week. The number that shocked me in there wasn't the 1X per week, it was that most men reported 2-3X per week as the "preferred frequency". I don't know a single guy who would say that. Guessing, of course, I think the most common answer is probably daily or twice a day for most guys I know. As an aside, when you look at a PA, it seems that most skew towards the male preferred frequency. Very often it's "every time" they are together or "several times a day" when they are together. I have my suspicions as to why this is the case, but, I just thought I'd throw it in here as a discussion point.

Back to the main point; there are a lot of rich men having a lot less sex than they want to have. Couple that with ease of sexual access when you're rich (or famous) and well, is it really any surprise what happens? It reminds me of the experiment where you put a hungry child in a room with cookies, tell them not to eat any, and then leave to room and see what happens. Most will resist for some time and then give in. And while we could never test this, a starving child, I'd venture to say, will never refuse it. Well, what if that "starving child" is actually 100 lbs overweight? They're not starving, they just feel like they are? I think that's a lot of what happens, no, you're not starving, in fact, your fat! But the subjective experience for that fat child looking at the cookies, is it any different than the starving child? I'm not sure it is, in fact, if anything, it might be worse. When you starve your body, it stops wanting food eventually, so, if anything, the overweight kid might want the cookie MORE than the child who's actually starving.

Is there a solution to this problem? Maybe, but what "solves" this problem is likely to cause a whole host of other problems. Simulated/virtual sex will probably get to the point in the next 20-30 years where it eclipses real sex for how enjoyable it is physically. When that happens, and people have unfettered sexual access to the subjective "best" sexual experiences, I think we'll see a lot more CFO with money behavior among men because they, like the CFO, will be rich. Why steal when you've got all the money you can ever spend at home? Yes, it will still happen, just like every now and again you find a really rich person stealing from petty cash. But it's a lot rarer; people who do that do it for the thrill of theft, not because they actually want the thing they are stealing and that's a very different pathology.

I'll wrap up with this, while this might sound like I'm excusing men for A's, that's not at all the message I intend to deliver. Your not f**king starving a**hole!! You might feel like you are, but you're not. You can masturbate like the rest of us if you're really that horny. You can talk to your wife and try to improve things. Or you can get a D and live a single life and have all the unmarried women you want. So this in no way is intended to excuse men for A's or, alternately to shame women for their sexual preferences or desired frequency, just like I can't will myself to want sex once a week, my wife cannot will herself to want sex once a day. What I can do is control my actions and compromise. And that last word, "compromise" is a concept that's very foreign to many powerful/rich men. Likely the reason we're seeing yet another headline with a story that's as old as the day is long.

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ibonnie ( member #62673) posted at 11:31 AM on Friday, January 11th, 2019

It reminds me of the experiment where you put a hungry child in a room with cookies, tell them not to eat any, and then leave to room and see what happens. Most will resist for some time and then give in. And while we could never test this, a starving child, I'd venture to say, will never refuse it. Well, what if that "starving child" is actually 100 lbs overweight? They're not starving, they just feel like they are? I think that's a lot of what happens, no, you're not starving, in fact, your fat!

I think you're referring to the marshmallow test? But the whole premise there was that kids were told if they waiting a certain amount of time (like 15 minutes) without eating the one marshmallow in front of them, then they would get double the amount of marshmallows when the researcher returned.

Which... also makes sense when it comes to cheating? Are you willing to throw away your marriage/family/half your wealth (double marshmallows) for a quick BJ under your desk (one instant marshmallow)?

I read this somewhere, and I think a better way to put it:

Person 1: If you have $100 in your pocket, and see $1 on the floor, you're still going to pick it up, right? There you go, that's why people cheat.

Person 2: Would you still pick it up, even if meant you had to throw away the $100 in your pocket? And there you go, that's why cheaters are stupid.

[This message edited by ibonnie at 5:34 AM, January 11th (Friday)]

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reeling24 ( member #60290) posted at 1:48 PM on Friday, January 11th, 2019

Just read the texts and ick. I feel for his BW and his kids. At least my drama wasn't played out in the public eye and more humiliation added on top of what she must already feel. Yes, the money will make things much easier for her, but it still doesn't mend a broken heart, the betrayal, and the destruction of a family. Wishing her some peace as this all plays out......

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notperfect5 ( member #43330) posted at 2:29 PM on Friday, January 11th, 2019

I would have gladly given up all my earthly possessions to not have another man screw my wife.

I would change it a little NP5 to "I would have gladly given up all my earthly possessions to not have my wife screw another man". Just because it's on her. And I would have.

Yes! That's it exactly!

I told this to my wife after DDay and it didn't register. It didn't compute for her. She told me that she thought, if I ever found out, that "I knew you wouldn't like it, but I had no idea it would hurt you so badly."

For her, money was way, way more important than fidelity. For in her FOO, money was really tight and the first consideration was "could they afford something". Screaming, yelling, manipulating, emotional and verbal abuse-- meh... It's not money.

I bought a business for perhaps 5-10% more than I could have. I didn't see a potential negotiating point that I could have made and it cost us. She railed on me for years and years about this, perhaps 10+ years. It was brought up in most occasions where she wanted to hurt me, insult me, or gain power in some way.

And then she turns around and cheats on me, causing us to lose at least three times that amount due to my mental anguish that inhibits me running the business well. Then there is all the MC and IC we ran up. Lost jobs and lost income. Like I said, I would have given all my earthly possessions...

For her she couldn't even wrap her head around that. She refuses to discuss or consider that reality. She puts on the blinders and just does the best she can right now from this moment forward. If I gave away all our money to charity, she would consider that action a betrayal 100 times worse than infidelity.

I just don't understand how people can think that way.

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Turned PA on 4/27/14 and fake R
PA during MC and my IC and her IC through 12/14
Polygraph on 4/30/15, TT 5/5/15.. TT on 10/4/15, 2nd Poly and TT 11/17/15
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DarkHoleHeart ( member #58272) posted at 3:51 PM on Friday, January 11th, 2019

It is sad.

I had high hopes for Jeff's Blue Origin, and now it might be in some trouble due to his stupid actions.

Lurrrrrrve...

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Cooley2here ( member #62939) posted at 7:57 PM on Friday, January 11th, 2019

If you read anything about soldiers in war and when they try to come home you will read that they have a difficult time transitioning. They talk about the intense heat, the long periods of boredom, the camaraderie and brotherhood, and then the intense fighting when they see people killed, when they don’t know if they’re going to die in the next minute, and they get addicted to the high. Euphoria is transitory but when you are in it there is nothing like it. Jeff Bezos cannot get anything else monetarily. He has enough for his life and thousands of others. So, boredom gets in and there’s this woman oozing sexuality whom he sees on a regular basis and bingo, euphoria. There it is, the high. CEOs are driven people. Everything about them is intense and when they have downtime they don’t know what to do with it and sex steps in.

I hope his wife gets everything.

When things go wrong, don’t go with them. Elvis

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numb&dumb ( member #28542) posted at 8:04 PM on Friday, January 11th, 2019

Yeah, You have to wonder at some point if his he is a victim of his own success and the feeling of invincibility did not play into this somehow.

I read his AP was voted, "most flirtatious," in her high school yearbook . . .yeah.

I feel bad for his kids. To have your family's dirty laundry aired on literally every media outlet the world over. . .nothing ever leaves the internet. It is hard to keep it between the adults when the rest of the world literally knows about it.

Dday 8/31/11. EA/PA. Lied to for 3 years.

Bring it, life. I am ready for you.

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BobPar ( member #62993) posted at 10:40 PM on Friday, January 11th, 2019

"Take the money and run" comes to mind.

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PricklePatch ( member #34041) posted at 2:04 AM on Saturday, January 12th, 2019

My FWH said tonight he bet the infidelity site is really talking about Jeff Bezos. I said, it’s straight out of the cheater handbook. I read today, the way the texts and pictures were sold is The Golddigger send them to friends.

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Mojojo ( member #63591) posted at 5:03 AM on Sunday, January 13th, 2019

How much $ does it cost to purchase character and integrity?

Character and Integrity, priceless!

It’s who you are without money and when no one is looking that counts the most.

Jeff Bezos is a philandering jackass and infidelity is a form of abuse, so let’s add “abuser” to his list of leadership traits.

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