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shattered123 ( member #27843) posted at 10:19 PM on Monday, March 7th, 2011

Dear Goose-em,

Yes, you need to limit your exposure to her, because it is causing you nothing but pain. Her civility is very likely short lived. As soon as you take action to protect yourself, I would not be surprised if she turns on you. Just be very careful for yourself and your child.

Buffalo is a very wise man, telling you to contact OMBW. That is very likely the ticket to the de-fogger.

Sending prayers for peace for you and your family. I am so sorry you are going through all this.

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HowMany ( member #24506) posted at 10:26 PM on Monday, March 7th, 2011

Also want to mention. Do NOT tell her you are going to contact the OMs wife. The will paint you as a psycho before you get a chance to talk to her. Just do it.

I think some time at the mall is in order about now. This civility thing will probably not last later than tonight. Go buy a VAR and keep it on you at ALL TIMES when she is around you.

Until the OM dumps her (minutes after his wife finds out) your WW is going to try to hurt you enough that you will leave the house. In her little sick mind: you leave, OM leaves his BS, he moves into YOUR house that YOU pay for, and everyone lives happily ever after. Forget that nonsense; get a VAR, protect your children and your home, expose the affair, knock sense into her pea brain.

Do you know where this Bozo lives? Can you just go to pipl.com and type in his name? You need to expose this affair asap. Stop waiting for a cell number, just look up the home phone and call her.

Your actions speak so loudly I can't hear a thing you're saying.

It must have been like throwing a hot dog down a hallway with all the room in there. - Runorstay

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 goose-em (original poster member #31286) posted at 10:45 PM on Monday, March 7th, 2011

OMG...The cell phone search company back back with HIS number. I already have that number 5000 times on my cell phone bill.I guess I have to drive up there??????

This is pissing me off.

DDday Feb 28/2011
BS(me) 33
WW 35
OM 30 PA
2 kids (age5)(SD12)
Filed for D 3-14-11
D on 7-26-11

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 goose-em (original poster member #31286) posted at 10:57 PM on Monday, March 7th, 2011

So it looks like she started texting guy #2 all weekend.

How do I get out of this drama!!!!!!

DDday Feb 28/2011
BS(me) 33
WW 35
OM 30 PA
2 kids (age5)(SD12)
Filed for D 3-14-11
D on 7-26-11

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Trying2Survive2 ( member #25758) posted at 11:28 PM on Monday, March 7th, 2011

OH man..i was afraid of that...

What do you know about her...

Is she stay at home? Can you go when he's working?

Somehow you have to get through to this woman.

Hang in there

I'll help you research for info if you pm me.

Faithful Wife ME 52
FWH 47
DDAY #1 1/11/09 EA Online ONLY (NC)
DDAY #2 6/2010 Admitted PA with the same PIG(12/08)
"Anything may be betrayed, anyone may be forgiven, but not those who lack the courage of their own greatness"

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Trying2Survive2 ( member #25758) posted at 11:28 PM on Monday, March 7th, 2011

OH man..i was afraid of that...

What do you know about her...

Is she stay at home? Can you go when he's working?

Somehow you have to get through to this woman.

Hang in there

I'll help you research for info if you pm me.

Faithful Wife ME 52
FWH 47
DDAY #1 1/11/09 EA Online ONLY (NC)
DDAY #2 6/2010 Admitted PA with the same PIG(12/08)
"Anything may be betrayed, anyone may be forgiven, but not those who lack the courage of their own greatness"

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Rollarcoastermom ( member #30676) posted at 11:33 PM on Monday, March 7th, 2011

Guy number#2? what the hell?

Your story is almost identical to what my best friend pulled with her hub. She was a great girl and literally went off the deep end.

She cheated on her hub and when caught she basically had him begging for her to stay.

No remorse, didn't care about the money, offered to be generous giving him anything he wanted because she just wanted a D to be with the OM.

Her hub was so hurt, crushed and wanted his family to stay intact.

He never got to tell the OM BS because she refused to tell his name. This all just happened a month ago. She was saving up, looking at places to move to, civil at home.

Well yesterday his BS had suspicions and got on her hubs fb account and read all their messages and called her!!

Basically she found out all he had been telling her was a lie. He gave her tidal cheater lines that she believed. You know the, my wives a bitch, we never have sex, I want to leave her for you. Typical crap....

Well when the shit hit the fan at OM house he threw her under the bus , cut off all ties, and she was crushed.

Yesterday she went home to her hub , was truly remorseful and for the first time in a long time I could see she was back in reality.

It rocked her to her core!! She blocked him from all phones, email and fb. She did it on her own.

Infact, she asked to go to church with me tonight and wants to turn her life around!!

I've been waiting for this day and so has her hub.

Once u contact the bs don't be surprised if she comes out of her fog and is horrified with everything she has done and who she hurt!!

Rarely, and I mean rarely do those who had an affair end up together in the end!!

Don't give up, put the pressure on by telling bs and doing the 180.

Me -BS/41 Him WS/41 Married 22 years this year!
OW LTA 05-sep08 (soccer mom)
Ow-CL oct08-feb09
Surprise!! He confessed to being a sex addict July 5,2012!!
He's been unfaithful most of the marriage in many various ways! I'm not crazy......

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 goose-em (original poster member #31286) posted at 11:36 PM on Monday, March 7th, 2011

I'm going to send a Cert. Rest. letter today after work. I don't really want to drive over there. It's in the hood.

DDday Feb 28/2011
BS(me) 33
WW 35
OM 30 PA
2 kids (age5)(SD12)
Filed for D 3-14-11
D on 7-26-11

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 goose-em (original poster member #31286) posted at 12:15 AM on Tuesday, March 8th, 2011

Doesn't the 180 stop working after she moves out and we file for a D? Just checking.

DDday Feb 28/2011
BS(me) 33
WW 35
OM 30 PA
2 kids (age5)(SD12)
Filed for D 3-14-11
D on 7-26-11

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Rollarcoastermom ( member #30676) posted at 12:20 AM on Tuesday, March 8th, 2011

No keep the 180 up for you!! It's to make you stronger. Things get really tough when they move out. You don't contact her, only answer things to deal with the kids or facts that have to be addressed. No chit chat.

Me -BS/41 Him WS/41 Married 22 years this year!
OW LTA 05-sep08 (soccer mom)
Ow-CL oct08-feb09
Surprise!! He confessed to being a sex addict July 5,2012!!
He's been unfaithful most of the marriage in many various ways! I'm not crazy......

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HowMany ( member #24506) posted at 12:21 AM on Tuesday, March 8th, 2011

The 180 is a very attractive option. Not only will it make YOU stronger but it will also make you more desirable. People like confident, self assured people.

The 180 is for YOU!!! It is not a tool to re-attract your WW but in a lot of instances, it will do exactly that. She will see a calm, happy, and detached man and she will find it attractive.

Again, don't do it with the intention of getting her back (it does that by itself), do it to build your self-esteem back up and get yourself back into pre dday mode.

Your actions speak so loudly I can't hear a thing you're saying.

It must have been like throwing a hot dog down a hallway with all the room in there. - Runorstay

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bufffalo ( member #21854) posted at 12:42 AM on Tuesday, March 8th, 2011

So it looks like she started texting guy #2 all weekend.

Maybe guy #1 got a different cell phone......it happens frequently...

Bufffalo

DDay 9/25/2008

BH-me

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 goose-em (original poster member #31286) posted at 3:10 AM on Tuesday, March 8th, 2011

I sent the certified restricted letter in the mail to her...if she is home she will get it tomorrow.

DDday Feb 28/2011
BS(me) 33
WW 35
OM 30 PA
2 kids (age5)(SD12)
Filed for D 3-14-11
D on 7-26-11

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Tempus ( member #30009) posted at 3:12 AM on Tuesday, March 8th, 2011

What did it say?

BH: 28 (me)
WW: 31
D1: 8
D2: 4
D-Day: 7/17/10

Hey, you would think that i'd be movin' on but i'm a sucker like i said f*ed up in the head. And maybe she just made a mistake and I should give her a break, my heart'll ache either way.

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beenthere2? ( member #28554) posted at 3:49 AM on Tuesday, March 8th, 2011

WTF is wrong with me that I can't keep a woman???? Am I that bad of a husband/person????

This is so not about you. It isn't what is wrong with you, but rather what is wrong with her.

I hope the BW gets your letter tomorrow.

Me: BW 34 Him: WH 36
Married 10
Dday #1 5/15/10 claimed EA/just friends
#2 9/20/10 (admitted to kiss w/ same OW
#3 11/29/10 admitted to a lot more

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why2008 ( member #18378) posted at 3:52 AM on Tuesday, March 8th, 2011

In my case, my WS was having affairs with two women at one time. One in state, one out of state. The in state tramp was married and knew about the out of state whore, but she was so whoretastic it didn't matter to her. The out of state whore was planning on meeting my WS once a month and could have gotten away with it since he does travel frequently.

After I discovered one affair and started digging, I found that he would call both whores one right after the other several times a day.

The first person he contacted for "advice" when I found out he was cheating on me was a third leftover whore. She was a slut he cheated on with his previous wife, and I later found out he screwed her while he was married to me. She was always presented as a "close friend" from medical school.

The reason I bring all this up is not for sympathy for my situation but to illustrate how when you get a gaggle of fucked up people together the dynamics and relationships defy normalcy or sanity. These people care nothing about each other or themselves really, their emotions are in their genitalia.

He also thought even after being caught that he could be "friends" with all the whores, because he really prefers female friendships to male friendships and I should understand that is the what he prefers.

So it looks like she started texting guy #2 all weekend.

Yeah, there is something odd going on there... as a guy, a straight guy that is... how much time are you gonna waste texting a woman, with all the drama your wife has, unless you had, were in the process of, or planned on tapping that tail?

I thought her wanting to be "free" was so ironic... if anything people who commit infidelity are virtual prisoners to their need for external validation and ego stroking. The are so trapped by their narcissism and blind, deaf and dumb to their own private hell or the injury they cause.

WTF is wrong with me that I can't keep a woman???? Am I that bad of a husband/person????

In the situation of infidelity the BS is really of no consequence to the WS, they are so wrapped up in themselves and in their own pain (real and imagined) that we really aren't going to be a big factor one way or the other. You don't matter because you didn't matter, you didn't fill an emotional black hole in your spouse.

Seriously, think about getting some IC, both to recover from this horrible experience and as the days mercifully turn into weeks after betrayal you will be going over your relationship and all these red flags will start sticking out... not about the infidelity but about the unbalance in your relationship. You need to delve into this so that you don't end up on with another person like you WS. You don't know how to avoid what you haven't fully defined.

I am really sorry this has been so rough. It is very difficult to go from suspicion to discovery and then to divorce so fast. I wish it could have turned out better for you.

I don't think it is wise to hold out hope that a WS comes back. Mainly because it's better to just focus on you and work on your own healing from this nightmare. But you wrote...

My WW has too much pride to come back even if she wanted to.

Gently, an adulterer has lost all pride and self respect, this is not your wife, this is now your WW and you don't know her at all. If anything pride is replaced by narcissistic arrogance in most WS's that chose to leave. Pride is no longer in her personal makeup.

This is important when dealing with her and her demands that you realize that she is NOT the same person you knew and you can't assume anything, remember she tried to break into you paypal account, how low class is that?

[This message edited by why2008 at 9:53 PM, March 7th (Monday)]

Me - BS - 46
Him - WS - 44
Two daughters / 10 and 7

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sadtoo ( member #2027) posted at 4:07 AM on Tuesday, March 8th, 2011

Goose,

Everyone is right. This is not your fault, this has nothing to do with you, this is no reflection on you.

No matter what she says or what insane reasoning she offers up as a way to blame you, it is nonsense. If all of these problems were so terrible, why didn't she speak up and say something? Why just run out and have an affair? See?

My XWH was the same way. I was moving through life as best I could. No, our marriage wasn't the best. But I was committed and as far as I knew so was he. I was BLINDSIDED when I discovered the OW. Then there was another OW and an OC. They all knew about each other and I was the idiot at home who knew nothing. Was any of this my fault or in any way an indication that there was something wrong with me?

No way. He was a lying, cheating, jackass and he had to go. Too bad I didn't find SI until after I had made way too many mistakes.

Nothing would shock me with your WW. She could have a string of OM's, it could be the same OM with a different cell phone, she could be doing all sorts of things. The bottom line is, this is NOT about you.

The other thing that is so hard in the beginning (because we so desperately need answers) is to NOT believe ONE SINGLE word she says. She is your lying cheating WW, not your wife who you trust.

Don't forget that, even during little conversations.

*I survived Infidelity*

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palerider ( member #22496) posted at 7:29 AM on Tuesday, March 8th, 2011

I don't really want to drive over there. It's in the hood.

That's really special. I take it you are of the paler persuasion? Is your wife, also? If this is a cross cultural adventure on her part, it plays right into the "body agenda" angle of evo-psychology as the basis for her actions.

Once your wife is gone for good, don't be surprised if she turns up pregnant by one of her new guys, even though she tells you she doesn't want more. All this is "body agenda" stuff. She's 35 and her biological clock is ticking and ramping up her sex drive so she has an primal urge to reproduce (thus the unrepentant adulteress). Despite what she may say, she has devalued you and made a decision, consciously or unconsciously, that you will not be the father of her next kid.

She's looking for other personality traits, bad boy traits to be specific. She's been having unprotected sex and getting doses of new guy semen (which elevates mood, causes bonding, giddiness). You have been beta-ized.

You can use the 180 and you can go "alpha" on her with new clothes and contacts with younger women if you think you want her back. If not, be glad you're getting rid of her now instead of ten years farther down the road. Here's a chance to get a 25 yr old without kids and relationship baggageand start a new family.

This may be a golden opportunity. But don't count on "amicable."

[This message edited by palerider at 1:31 AM, March 8th (Tuesday)]

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bufffalo ( member #21854) posted at 8:06 AM on Tuesday, March 8th, 2011

I sent the certified restricted letter in the mail to her...if she is home she will get it tomorrow.

Good for you, bro.....the other BS being advised would be my number one goal....and the sooner the better.

I don't really want to drive over there. It's in the hood.

I wouldnt care if it were on the moon....i'd let his wife know..

keep us posted...

Bufffalo

DDay 9/25/2008

BH-me

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MoreThanMe ( member #25451) posted at 2:05 PM on Tuesday, March 8th, 2011

OMG-so outta the waywards handbook-"YOU'LL never forgive ME."

So cowardly. So insane. So yella belly.

I mean, what would a person with a conscience do (she may grow one when she gets outta the fog) do?

They would say they suck, they're sorry, and that they've decided that they'd have an affair instead of being honest about being so unhappy. Hence way they suck.

Brevity, typos & misspellings provided by my ipad and fatigue.
It's been 4 years, SA husband sober. We're doing okay. Today.

fWH had ONS with High School Principal he met on Ashley.com. 08/25/2009

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