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Booyah ( member #60124) posted at 9:45 PM on Wednesday, March 28th, 2018

Whenever you speak to her make sure you record the conversation (with a VAR or on your cell phone).

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 2018MLMM (original poster member #63023) posted at 11:33 PM on Wednesday, March 28th, 2018

Ok, interesting day.

I’ll post later, but most interesting thing was found on the family pc in the office. Her email was open and there is a message SI. Seems they won’t register her because it appears there is already an account tied to my computer.

So she tried to get on to SI and was stopped!

To the SI Administrators and Mods....

THANK YOU

THANK YOU

THANK YOU

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Sharkman ( member #56818) posted at 11:37 PM on Wednesday, March 28th, 2018

She can read your messages here though.

It may be a good or it may be a bad thing, but just know that immediately you need to make sure all exposure or anything that you need to do is taken care of. She’ll be warning her boyfriend if you post of subsequent plans at this point. (Or atleast you can assume she will)

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 2018MLMM (original poster member #63023) posted at 12:05 AM on Thursday, March 29th, 2018

I will be very guarded

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Iwantmyglasses ( member #57205) posted at 12:19 AM on Thursday, March 29th, 2018

She was looking at your search history unless your wiped it.

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 2018MLMM (original poster member #63023) posted at 12:44 AM on Thursday, March 29th, 2018

If she was, she didn’t see anything as I’ve been deleting everything whenever I leave any computer.

It a habit I’ve picked up recently.

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Shockedmom ( member #44708) posted at 12:46 AM on Thursday, March 29th, 2018

Is there anything in your SI name that might tip her off if she does a google search?

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 2018MLMM (original poster member #63023) posted at 12:52 AM on Thursday, March 29th, 2018

Everything here has already taken place or was the ravings of a madman that missed any opportunities

From this point on, it is just me ranting and venting about that day.

Even if she does read anything here, it might help her to learn empathy or remorse!

[This message edited by 2018MLMM at 6:53 PM, March 28th (Wednesday)]

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Coreofsteel ( member #62501) posted at 1:14 AM on Thursday, March 29th, 2018

2018, I would advise caution. She is unlikely to learn empathy or remorse. My ex, (a WS) was on SI and all the reading he did taught him neither. Keep posting, but be careful about what you reveal.

ME: BS. Together with wayward spouse for 4 years. D-Day Jan 24, 2018. D-Day #2 Feb 5, 2018. D-day #3 from numerous other people, March 15. D-day #4 April 9, sex with more people and a hooker. NO future.

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Oftencheatedon ( member #41268) posted at 1:42 AM on Thursday, March 29th, 2018

I am a woman so maybe some men won’t understand what I am going to say. Or maybe some women too - although it’s hard for me to imagine that.

If I were to wake up in my bed with an uninvited and unwelcome person in my bed trying to hug me I would have the biggest shit fit EVER. Absolutely unconditionally unacceptable. I would probably have nightmares for weeks. I don’t care if it was a past partner.

My body is NOT available to anybody without my consent. And I am not trying to imply sexual assault or rape. Crawling in bed with someone is an extremely personal act that no one has the right to inflict on another person who objects.

I wish the OP’s children had not witnessed his anger. That is unfortunate. But I understand his anger.

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 2018MLMM (original poster member #63023) posted at 1:59 AM on Thursday, March 29th, 2018

Often,

Thank you. I thought I was way off base

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Coreofsteel ( member #62501) posted at 2:23 AM on Thursday, March 29th, 2018

Nope, 2018, that was a violation for sure. You didn't react well for sure, but it's understandable. Learn from it for next time.

ME: BS. Together with wayward spouse for 4 years. D-Day Jan 24, 2018. D-Day #2 Feb 5, 2018. D-day #3 from numerous other people, March 15. D-day #4 April 9, sex with more people and a hooker. NO future.

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PricklePatch ( member #34041) posted at 4:14 AM on Thursday, March 29th, 2018

Honestly, if my fwh had done that I would have been triggered from my rape and come awake swinging. Not by choice by PTSD.

She is a stranger in your wife’s body. Divorce filed, bedroom closed.

BS Fwh

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HardyRose ( member #55069) posted at 9:10 AM on Thursday, March 29th, 2018

Oops double post

[This message edited by HardyRose at 4:00 AM, March 29th (Thursday)]

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HardyRose ( member #55069) posted at 9:10 AM on Thursday, March 29th, 2018

My body is NOT available to anybody without my consent. And I am not trying to imply sexual assault or rape. Crawling in bed with someone is an extremely personal act that no one has the right to inflict on another person who objects

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I agree with Often MLMM and I think everyone else is saying the same thing.

What your WS did was wrong on so many levels and you are right to feel angry and violated. But what you need to do is stay smart. That man who did all that planning - you need him in control - not your anger.

Don’t verbally abuse your WS. Don’t yell at her so loudly that you scare your daughter.

Use a calm tone - much like you would if you were trying to communicate with an angry hurt dog. (Just running with your analogy)

Short sentences with direct commands.

“Don’t touch me”

“Get out of my room”

Keep calm around your WS because you don’t want her to claim abuse.

Treat her like a stranger- be polite but nothing else during the day and if she steps out of bounds again then short commands. Nothing more.

She doesn’t deserve any more of your soul - don’t give her the chance to see you sad, angry or hurt. She doesn’t deserve that kind of vulnerability from you.

[This message edited by HardyRose at 3:11 AM, March 29th (Thursday)]

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Western ( member #46653) posted at 12:33 PM on Thursday, March 29th, 2018

I am going to dissent from those who are going to bring rape/violations etc into this.

I think we are getting off base here. Way off base.

In the end, she is in the process of losing everything and she deserves it. However, it still her house, still her bedroom and still her husband but not for long, obviously.

She crawled into bed with him because she's trying to salvage something, she's not trying to sexually assault anyone. Inappropriate at this stage of the game ? Sure. Rape ? Assault ? Battery ? No. Not in my opinion

Please enough already. Can't we support 2018 and his, imo, right to seek divorce from his wife without criminalizing her ?

Anyone who knows my history here knows I have little sympathy for cheaters including 2018s wife.

It doesn't take a lot to figure out what's going on here but going into the sexual assault area is way off base imo

Besides which, I am sure that 2018 would prefer an amicable divorce. His accusing her of the above would start WW3.

Not what this man needs now

[This message edited by Western at 6:35 AM, March 29th (Thursday)]

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Western ( member #46653) posted at 12:39 PM on Thursday, March 29th, 2018

And of course its all his house and bedroom too. I am just glad she is retreating to give him space, unlike 46s wife who gave the man no space and ultimately forcing him to move

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Booyah ( member #60124) posted at 12:40 PM on Thursday, March 29th, 2018

2018 how are your kids doing?

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atreides ( member #44180) posted at 2:29 PM on Thursday, March 29th, 2018

2018MLMM I am glad you are still on course...

Please vent, it is healthy... I understand your reaction which i will "label" "kneejerk"... she is latching on to what she thinks she can save or hope to save.. that is her perspective..

You have every right to reject... keep in mind though as I was saying before about civility (it goes a long way in the long term to have better relations for the divorce, kids custody/time~with and other issues)... I digress a bit..it could have gone where you remove her head and arm from your chest, you get out of the bed and firmly tell her you do not wish her to come in your room again...

I say this as a version for the argument of civility and i think you got it from later posts.

She is still the "mom" of your kids so let them decide their path but don't add toxicity to it.

Your WW has done the unimaginable, but the best "revenge" or "justice" << in quotes is you moving on successfully as in she will see even further and from then on what she lost as your own value and self-worth soar.

Sending strength

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 2018MLMM (original poster member #63023) posted at 2:30 PM on Thursday, March 29th, 2018

Ladies and gentlemen, I cant tell you just how much I have appreciated your comments and support. I will freely admit that there was more than one time when I thought about telling everyone here to get lost, mainly because of the comments of a few people just as DDay approached and I needed people. But I’m so happy that I did return

As for my reaction the other night, please that I do not equate what she did with rape. I’m going through my own hell, I can NOT begin to dream the levels of hell that those victims must feel!!! Now I don’t want to start a big debate, but I do believe in capital punishment for rapists.

I was just shocked and yes, horrified that she would think it was ok for her to do that, never mind that I would be ok with it.

Ok, so last night we had our first real conversation since DDay, if you could consider DDay a real conversation with all the denials, lies, etc.

Yes, she finally admitted that she was having a full blown (whatever that means) affair with pos. She also said that he sent her a NC message and that she has no plans in reaching out to him. Of course she apologized profusely and said she wanted her marriage back, her family back, her life back, me back, yadda, yadda, yadda

I told her that all of that has been killed by her and her alone. The marriage is dead. I am not the same person I was just very recently because of what she did. Our family will forever be altered. Her children have and are changing because of her actions.

I told her that until a court says differently, this is still her house, I specifically did not refer to it as home. Her name is still on the lease. And even though I think it is best for everyone for her to leave and stay someplace else, I will not kick her out. I reminded her that my son is coming home from college in Friday and I believe he should be allowed to have his own room. I suggested that if she is going to stay, that she move the lower trundle bed from his room into the office and make the office her room. But I reiterated that I do think it would be best if she did NOT stay here.

I also told her how I felt about the other night when she came in bed, she apologized. I told her under NO circumstances is she to touch me without asking me first. She can go in there today to get any of her remaining stuff, but after that, it is completely off limits.

We then talked about the kids, at least I think that was the order. We agreed that they hate her for what she has done to all of us. I told her what I told them last Friday. (HOW THE HELL HAS IT ONLY BEEN 6 DAYS?!?!). I told her that I did NOT show them any of the porno photos or videos. But I did show them one of the rated G selfies of the two of the them just so they knew what he looked like.

That transitioned into her job. She told me she has been suspended and expects to be fired. I said I knew.

She asked how I knew everything, and I told her that that was none of her concern.

She then said that she prays to be given a second chance with me, but knows the odds are that we will get a divorce, but she was here on SI yesterday, and while she was unable to register for some reason, she did read a good amount and said that she is going to do everything to get me to believe that she worth a second chance. I just stared at her. She then explained to me that she read about the importance of transparency, and she gave me piece of paper with all of her various accounts and passwords, including Amazon. I remember this surprising me because it never occurred to me that she was or may have been buying pos gifts.

She also said that she is seeing a counselor today, and she is committed to fixing herself and the damage she has done to the kids, and again, she commented how she hopes to convince me that she is worth a second chance. (I am assuming that is a popular phrase in Wayward section)

I told her that I was relieved that she is seeing a counselor. I told her that both kids now have counselors. Son sees his for first time next week. She told me that neither kid is talking to her. When she talks to daughter, daughter just glares at her until she stops talking, then walks away, or yells at her “(insert name) don’t you dare talk to me.” And son isn’t taking her calls. She even called him from the house phone, and as soon as she said hello, he hung up on her.

So, family counseling will be coming down the road.

She then asked if I had any questions about the affair. I said no, not at this time as I have seen all of the videos and photos. But iI did say that I’m sure there will come a time when I will ask questions and will want to see all of the texts, emails, and any other communication between the two of them. If I were to find out that she had deleted any of them after DDay, it would prove to me that she was stiill hiding stuff from me and I could not imagine ever trusting anything she ever said or did in the future.

She then asked if there is any chance for us. I told her that I am going to go through with the divorce, but do not have a problem if I decide that we could have a parallel track where she works on her issues as to why she did this, that we might have something. I said that while I feel no obligation to her, I would not have a problem to the possibility of deciding if I want to date the new her or not. But I will not be guilted, manipulated, or coerced I into it. If I decide to do it, it is because it is something that I want for my own reasons

I clearly stated that this current marriage is over. The woman I married is dead and gone forever, just like the man she was married to is gone and will never return, and this is all because of her.

But that does not mean that there is zero channce that the new people we are won’t have something. I told her that a second marriage was something that I thought was a possibility, I made it clear that it will be incredibly tough and most likely will not happen. I told her from what I’ve read, I’m going to be an emotional basketcase around her, there will be times that I am going to be brutal to her (never physically). She said she will take anything I do and will thank me every day for giving her the gift of one more day. (Yes, she was definitely reading SI.

I told her that she needs to come here and read the first two threads by Walloped in the Just Found Out Section and and Mrs Walloped’s my story. I told her that I am not Walloped and that he is a much bigger and better man than me, and that I refuse to do some of the things he has done. And I did tell her that I’ve been posting here, and a small step in rebuilding my trust with her is to not go looking for or to read my threads or posts. And if she does start posting here, I will not read her posts/threads

We ended our conversation because out daughter was expected to come home from work at any time.

She said sorry again and thanked me. She said she will make sure all of her stuff is out of my bedroom and will start to set up the office to be her room. She said that she will plan on sleeping at sister’s starting Thursday night, but asked that she be allowed to sleep her Saturday night. She said that she will not assume she is invited to be part of family activity

She then asked if she could hug me, and after what felt like 12 hours, I think I said something like, I don’t think so, then walked out of the room. I went upstairs and cried like a starving infant with a soaking wet diaper, and as I did the hook on the door, I heard her crying as well

When daughter came home she came up to my room, & knocked. I got up to unhook the door, she came in and asked “rough (or tough) day?” I smiled and accepted her hug, and we talked about everything, from pos, to previous night, to my conversation with her mother, to possible future outcomes. I did say that we are definitely getting divorced, but anything could happen

This really sucks!!!!!!

Ok ladies and gentlemen of the jury, how did I do?

[This message edited by 2018MLMM at 11:35 PM, March 29th (Thursday)]

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