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thebighurt ( member #34722) posted at 9:53 PM on Wednesday, December 20th, 2017
How worrying to go through this with him.
This is a horribly devastating crime. I'm sorry you both are hurting, but I just think how much worse this would be for your brave DS without YOU by his side.
Huge hugs to you both. Hopefully your Holiday will prove to be a bit of distraction for him to put it out of his head if only for a short while and feel a bit 'normal' again.
Finding what life could have been....... Why didn't I see it?
Bigger ( Attaché #8354) posted at 1:37 PM on Friday, December 22nd, 2017
Hey DMW,
Any news on the police investigation?
How do you sense they evaluate the “seriousness” of the crime? Are they taking this seriously? Have they checked CTV footage at the bar?
I realized that based on the drinking age and the EU tag you might not be in the USA. Maybe the link I offered wasn’t correct for your location, but hopefully you can find something comparable.
"If, therefore, any be unhappy, let him remember that he is unhappy by reason of himself alone." Epictetus
ZenMumWalking (original poster member #25341) posted at 2:27 AM on Saturday, December 23rd, 2017
Hi Bigger, thanks for checking in. We are in Europe, but that website has still been helpful to my son. Thanks for providing that.
About the police, I will need to check that with my son but want to wait a bit for him to open up a little more about it. But they haven't sent anything to our house by mail. I would like to encourage DS to follow up with them about it.
This crime happened in a different state from the one where we live (next one over), I'm not sure how much if any difference it makes for the investigation though. At least I'm assuming there has been some kind of investigation. But I don't know how long it takes for them to test a rape kit, or to follow that up with database searches. It could also be that the perpetrator is from a different country (we are close to other countries in Europe) and so even if they have a criminal record/DNA in that country it might not turn up in our country. And I doubt that this is very high on Interpol's list of priorities.
I'm not sure about security cameras in/around the bar, I will suggest to my son that he find out about that when he follows up with the police.
And if he doesn't feel strong enough or ready to deal with the police then this mama bear is gonna do it for him. It would be great if the bastard could be caught.
Thanks again, your expertise and concrete suggestions have been helpful for me.
Me (BS), Him (WH): late-50's
3 DS: 26, 25, 22
M: 30+ (19 1/2 at Dday)
Dday: Dec 2008
Wanted R, not gonna happen (in permanent S)
Used to be DeadMumWalking, doing better now
MelisssaZZZ ( member #25953) posted at 8:48 PM on Saturday, December 23rd, 2017
I have not read all responses. Maybe this has been said before.
Gay rape - her your son to hospital and ask for hiv pep - like morning after pill for hiv (have to take it for a month)..
Being raped is shit, living with hiv for the rest of his life ... worse
Me BS - 40
WH 42
1 child - 9y
married 5 yrs, together 7
DD1 midmarch 09
DD2 early june 09
some more DD's of course - cannot bother to list
Status: Divorced Oct 2011
Him: not with OW anymore. She grew up and ditched him..
MelisssaZZZ ( member #25953) posted at 8:56 PM on Saturday, December 23rd, 2017
Sorry - reading more it happened more then 72 hrs ago.. Pepe only works in first 72 hours
Fingers crossed it’s all good for you son
Me BS - 40
WH 42
1 child - 9y
married 5 yrs, together 7
DD1 midmarch 09
DD2 early june 09
some more DD's of course - cannot bother to list
Status: Divorced Oct 2011
Him: not with OW anymore. She grew up and ditched him..
solus sto ( member #30989) posted at 9:32 AM on Saturday, December 30th, 2017
I don’t know how I missed this, but I am so very very sorry. This is so sad and horrifying and I can only imagine your pain—and his.
If you need an ear Or shoulder, you know where to find me.
Millions of hugs to you all.
BS-me, 62; X-irrelevant; we’re D & NC. "So much for the past and present. The future is called 'perhaps,' which is the only possible thing to call the future. And the important thing is not to let that scare you." Tennessee Williams
WhatsRight ( member #35417) posted at 11:48 AM on Saturday, December 30th, 2017
DMW...
How did it go for you and your son in the holidays?
I know sometimes the holidays can be a much needed distraction, but can also make negative issues hurt even more.
I so hope it was the former for you both.
Still thinking of you and your DS.
Much love and hugs. 💕
"Noone can make you feel inferior without your concent." Eleanor Roosevelt
I will not be vanquished. Rose Kennedy
StillLivin ( member #40229) posted at 5:36 PM on Saturday, December 30th, 2017
DMW I am so sorry. I cannot read the other responses, it is a huge trigger for me. I was sexually abused by my stepfather for years and raped my first year in the Army. My only comfort I can give is that it IS possible to heal from this. I'm so sorry your baby has suffered this horrible action. I wish I could travel to you and him both and give you both a hug. Please get counseling for yourself as well. You're going through a lot to and be gentle with yourself. It's hard being the parent and helpless to prevent our babies from being harmed. He will need you at your strongest. I wish I could do more for you. Know I am sending prayers and all of my love.
"Bitch please a good man can't be stolen." ROFLMAO - SBB: 7/2/2014
ZenMumWalking (original poster member #25341) posted at 9:00 PM on Sunday, January 7th, 2018
My poor boy, he's been spending so much time alone. We had a nice visit with family over the holidays, but this past week he hasn't wanted to spend much time with friends.
He starts school again tomorrow, gets STD results, has another IC this week. I hope the activity helps him a bit. He is taking Trittico (Trazodone) for sleeping/anxiety/depression, and his sleeping has improved.
He's such a strong young man having to navigate all of this, even though I know he doesn't feel that way right now.
Me (BS), Him (WH): late-50's
3 DS: 26, 25, 22
M: 30+ (19 1/2 at Dday)
Dday: Dec 2008
Wanted R, not gonna happen (in permanent S)
Used to be DeadMumWalking, doing better now
Phoenix1 ( member #38928) posted at 9:19 PM on Sunday, January 7th, 2018
fBS - Me
Xhole - Multiple LTAs/2 OCs over 20+yrs
Adult Kids
Happily divorced!
You can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending. ~C.S. Lewis~
PricklePatch ( member #34041) posted at 4:20 AM on Monday, January 8th, 2018
Hugs To you both. My DD is having insomnia and night terrors her psychiatrist will not give her sleeping pills.
Lark ( member #43773) posted at 4:58 AM on Monday, January 15th, 2018
Hugs dmw, I am just now seeing this. I am so glad your son has you for getting through this nightmare
“It is our choices, Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities.” - Dumbledore
SisterMilkshake ( member #30024) posted at 5:21 PM on Monday, January 15th, 2018
I am so sorry for your son, you and your whole family. I have no words of wisdom or even comfort. Just know that I am holding you all in my thoughts and wishing for peace and serenity for you all. (((((((((((((DMW, DS3))))))))))))))
BW (me) & FWH both over half a century; married several decades; children
d-day 3/10; LTA (7 years?)
"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak." ~ Homer Simpson
ZenMumWalking (original poster member #25341) posted at 6:41 PM on Monday, January 15th, 2018
Thanks everyone for continuing to keep us in your thoughts.
Next round of STD testing this week. DS said he doesn't feel like doing it because 'I don't think I have anything'. I told him that of course we hope that he doesn't but that he could have something without symptoms. He said he just doesn't want to do it. So I asked him if he just wanted to forget about this whole experience and he said yes, that's probably why he doesn't want to go.
So I told him that not testing doesn't make it go away and could even make things worse, so it is better to confront everything now.
Then I told him that he needs to go to the testing place tomorrow and bring me proof that he went or made an appointment for later this week, and if he doesn't come home with that proof tomorrow then I am taking him in myself the next day.
I also told him that if he didn't want to go alone, WH and/or I would go with him.
Also, I asked him if he had told any friends and he has now. He said they have all been very supportive of him. I said maybe one of them would go to the testing place with him to support him if he wanted.
After this round of testing there's another one in 6 weeks then a final one 3 months after that. I am hopeful that he won't have any positive tests because he doesn't have any high risk behaviors - (serially) monogamous (afaik), uses condoms, no drugs other than alcohol occasionally, no sex with men (other than his rape
).
I know he is an adult (he'll be 20 in a few weeks), but I can't allow him to forego this testing, just like I can't let him walk into an oncoming train. I hope that he will let us all help him to get through this, he normally likes to be able to handle things on his own. But this is just too big.
I don't know what else to do. He is going to IC 1-2 times per week. His night terrors are gone, but he still has trouble sleeping and is often nauseous without any apparent reason such as a tummy bug, so I'm assuming that it's his body reacting to this trauma.
He's got a lot on his plate right now, even without this. I still feel shocked that this has happened to him. And so helpless even while I am trying to help him to process this, to work his way through it and, eventually, to overcome his feelings of weakness and helplessnes and take back his power.
Thanks again for all of your support. It means so much to me, and gives me strength to be a source of support and comfort to DS when I'm not feeling all that strong myself.
Me (BS), Him (WH): late-50's
3 DS: 26, 25, 22
M: 30+ (19 1/2 at Dday)
Dday: Dec 2008
Wanted R, not gonna happen (in permanent S)
Used to be DeadMumWalking, doing better now
Bigger ( Attaché #8354) posted at 1:53 PM on Friday, January 19th, 2018
You guys cant have missed the metoo revolution.
Could you use it as a tool to open your son up?
A key-issue being discussed is returning the shame and the blame. Your son might be suffering from some shame and blame for allowing this to happen. Maybe talking to him about what metoo is all about could help.
"If, therefore, any be unhappy, let him remember that he is unhappy by reason of himself alone." Epictetus
ZenMumWalking (original poster member #25341) posted at 4:17 PM on Friday, January 19th, 2018
Good idea Bigger, I'll bring it up with him.
Me (BS), Him (WH): late-50's
3 DS: 26, 25, 22
M: 30+ (19 1/2 at Dday)
Dday: Dec 2008
Wanted R, not gonna happen (in permanent S)
Used to be DeadMumWalking, doing better now
ZenMumWalking (original poster member #25341) posted at 2:55 PM on Wednesday, January 24th, 2018
Small update: this last round of STD testing was all negative, his next appt (3 months) is end of February.
Today is his birthday, he's 20 now, and we will be making a cake together tonight.
He is keeping up with IC, which I am glad about because I know that he still needs it (and will for some time). But he is also still having flashbacks and other bad thoughts.
Keep sending out your good vibes.
Me (BS), Him (WH): late-50's
3 DS: 26, 25, 22
M: 30+ (19 1/2 at Dday)
Dday: Dec 2008
Wanted R, not gonna happen (in permanent S)
Used to be DeadMumWalking, doing better now
MissesJai ( member #24849) posted at 4:49 PM on Wednesday, January 24th, 2018
sending all the good vibes the world has to offer. (((DMW & DS)))
44
Happily divorcing..
My Life is Mine!!!!
#BlackLivesMatter
Don't settle for no fuck shit....
PricklePatch ( member #34041) posted at 6:22 PM on Wednesday, January 24th, 2018
Sending Birhday wishes and good karma to your son.
Skan ( member #35812) posted at 6:22 PM on Wednesday, January 24th, 2018
I hope that you two can have a really wonderful birthday today. Continuing to hold you both in my prayers.
Imagine a ship trying to set sail while towing an anchor. Cutting free is not a gift to the anchor. You must release that burden, not because the anchor is worthy, but because the ship is.
D-Day, June 10, 2012
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